Pornography

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no but that does not mean that it does not portray negative values.

Negative values?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no but that does not mean that it does not portray negative values.

Do you accept pornography can be beneficial?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Negative values?

yes, values like these

The values expressed in pornography clash so obviously with the family concept, and they potentially undermine the traditional values that favor marriage, family, and children ... Pornographic scripts dwell on sexual engagements of parties who have just met, who are in no way attached or committed to each other, and who will part shortly, never to meet again ... Sexual gratification in pornography is not a function of emotional attachment, of kindness, of caring, and especially not of continuance of the relationship, as such continuance would translate into responsibilities, curtailments, and costs ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_pornography

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Do you accept pornography can be beneficial?

Beneficial in what way? In essence I think its entirely destructive. I am reading the experiences of some ex-porn stars and its harrowing.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Beneficial in what way? In essence I think its entirely destructive.

CalJust gave a scenario in which pornography was beneficial on the previous page.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes, values like these

The values expressed in pornography clash so obviously with the family concept, and they potentially undermine the traditional values that favor marriage, family, and children ... Pornographic scripts dwell on sexual engagements of parties who have just met, who are in no way attached or committed to each other, and who will ...[text shortened]... sibilities, curtailments, and costs ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_pornography

Okay. No time to read the wiki at the moment.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
CalJust gave a scenario in which pornography was beneficial on the previous page.

Caljust? bwahahah, in what way did he say that being a porn-again Christian benefited him? that it rejuvenated his sex life? I suggest to him that if he had being doing it properly in the first place he would of had no issues. Pornography espouses values that are anti healthy sex, i produced an article form the New York mag detailing why.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Caljust? bwahahah, in what way did he say that being a porn-again Christian benefited him? that it rejuvenated his sex life? I suggest to him that if he had being doing it properly in the first place he would of had no issues. Pornography espouses values that are anti healthy sex, i produced an article form the New York mag detailing why.

So a fellow poster gives a candid insight into his marital sex life and all you can offer is some glib put down. Was that you being humble or self-effacing?

As for your article, I prefer to read your own views thanks.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Caljust? bwahahah, in what way did he say that being a porn-again Christian benefited him? that it rejuvenated his sex life? I suggest to him that if he had being doing it properly in the first place he would of had no issues. Pornography espouses values that are anti healthy sex, i produced an article form the New York mag detailing why.

if (and there is) there was a genre of porn that promoted a healthy sexual relationship between a couple, would you change your opinion? or is any porn regardless of the message....bad?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
So a fellow poster gives a candid insight into his marital sex life and all you can offer is some glib put down. Was that you being humble or self-effacing?

As for your article, I prefer to read your own views thanks.

its nothing less than he deserves for his unwarranted attacks upon my majesty and dignity when i was attempting to establish a serious subject.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
if (and there is) there was a genre of porn that promoted a healthy sexual relationship between a couple, would you change your opinion? or is any porn regardless of the message....bad?

As I have pointed out the values that pornography espouses are clearly detrimental in all kinds of ways. I would advocate the Bibles message on sex of giving and enjoying.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
As I have pointed out the values that pornography espouses are clearly detrimental in all kinds of ways. I would advocate the Bibles message on sex of giving and enjoying.

is there any circumstance in which it okay for a jw to masturbate?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
is there any circumstance in which it okay for a jw to masturbate?

this thread is about pornography, its not about masturbation or Jehovahs witnesses and if you have not the decency or the manners to respect that then perhaps this is not the thread for you. I have provided many detailed links to articles, excerpts and studies discussing the subject and i cannot recall a single instance where you have managed to comment on any of them, clearly you are uninterested in the subject and instead wish to introduce irrelevancies at every turn.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I speak English, Hindi/Urdu fluently, Punjabi, lowland Scots at home and have a smattering of Gaelic and French.

In the past, you have claimed to be fairly fluent in Greek. It's odd that this would slip your mind now when deliberately typing out a list of the languages you speak.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Beneficial in what way? In essence I think its entirely destructive. I am reading the experiences of some ex-porn stars and its harrowing.

It doesn't matter whether you, or I, or 99% of the world cannot see
a benefit to pornography. While one person can there is a need for it.