ironman

I saw ironman lost his 2th game. Can anyone tell me when he lost his first and against who

It was someone who didn't even get to play 20 games here, Hungton or similar, unless they re-registered ?

I recently lost my 16th game....did i get a thread asking about it ? Did I hell ?!!

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Congrats to Akizy. I like the novelty on move 13.

i know i sent him an email about asking who he lost to and here is what he sent me back.

Here is the text of my loss vs. Hungtn. I was playing black.
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Be7 8. Qf3 Qc7 9. O-O-O Nbd7 10. g4 b5 11. Bxf6 Nxf6 12. g5 Nd7 13. f5 Bxg5+ 14. Kb1 Ne5 15. Qh5 Qd8 16. Rg1 Bf6 17. fxe6 O-O 18. Bh3 g6 19. Nd5 Kh8 20. Qe2 fxe6 21. Bxe6 Nf3 22. Nxf3 Bxe6 23. Nxf6 Qxf6 24. Nd4 Bc4 25. Qg2 Rae8 26. b3 Bg8 27. Rgf1 Qe5 28. Rxf8 Rxf8 29. Ne2 a5 30. Ng3 a4 31. Qd2 a3 32. c3 Rf3 33. Qxd6 Qxd6 34. Rxd6 Rf2 35. e5 Rb2+ 36. Kc1 Rxa2 37. e6 Rxh2 38. e7 a2 39. Ra6 Bf7 40. c4 bxc4 41. bxc4 h5 42. c5 h4 43. c6 hxg3 44. c7 g2 45. c8=Q+ Kg7??? (after Kh7 white is lost!) 46. Qf8+ and I resigned
I got at least ten times a lost position in other games, but I managed to win or draw and I lost a winning game!

I put the Akizy - Ironman game into Fritz and it only found one move it disagreed with. It suggests 15. ... Rf7 which apparently still leads to an advantage for white.

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I put the Akizy - Ironman game into Fritz and it only found one move it disagreed with. It suggests 15. ... Rf7 which apparently still leads to an advantage for white.

I have no idea why Ironman resigned this game, though I did not do a detailed analysis. Doesn't simply Ng6 hold everything?

Im a lowly player first off, but I too think Ng6 will keep the game alive.


Wow!

Game 661930

Originally posted by no1marauder
I have no idea why Ironman resigned this game, though I did not do a detailed analysis. Doesn't simply Ng6 hold everything?

21. Ng6 22. Rxg6 hxg6 23. Nf4 Qe8 (other moves lose the same or quicker eg. Qg5 Nxe6) 24. Bxc4 dxc4 25. Nxg6
White is threatening Qh8# and both the responses to counter this lose material (Rf6 to exf6 and Re7 to Qh8+ Kf7 Qh5 and tactics to follow).
This is worth resigning over against an opponent of Akizy's calibre as he won't miss it.
It's an amazing game. I could look at for hours and still be finding new wrinkles.

I see it now... rook takes knight and the end would be soon.

edit: ^ yeah what he^ said!

I dont see how that game was a lost position for Ironman. Maybe someone could get him to post his analysis on here.

Originally posted by Blitz00
I dont see how that game was a lost position for Ironman. Maybe someone could get him to post his analysis on here.

If you can find an improvement in my analysis of the final position you are welcome to post it. Remember though a lost game for top players is different than it is for the likes of us mear mortals.

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
21. Ng6 22. Rxg6 hxg6 23. Nf4 Qe8 (other moves lose the same or quicker eg. Qg5 Nxe6) 24. Bxc4 dxc4 25. Nxg6
White is threatening Qh8# and both the responses to counter this lose material (Rf6 to exf6 and Re7 to Qh8+ Kf7 Qh5 and tactics to follow).
This is worth resigning over against an opponent of Akizy's calibre as he won't miss it.
It's an amazing game. I could look at for hours and still be finding new wrinkles.

I will admit the exchange sac looks like it works, but I strongly disagree that the position is resignable BEFORE your opponent even makes the move! I seriously doubt any grandmaster would resign in the position. Since Ng6 doesn't work, however, how about Kh8? Bg5 seems strong but I don't see an immediate forced win.

Why instead of Ng6 why not pawn g6? I mean you cant take the knight but it stops the attack by rook. Then when knight moves to check the king move king h8.

Originally posted by Blitz00
Why instead of Ng6 why not pawn g6? I mean you cant take the knight but it stops the attack by rook. Then when knight moves to check the king move king h8.

21. ... g6 22. Nf6+ Kh8 23. Qh4
White is aiming for Rh3 and tripling on the h7 pawn. All defences to this lose the g pawn and the pressure on the king remains.

I think No1 has the best plan (21. ... Kh8) however I think this also fails after 22. Bg5.
Fritz gives
22. ... f4 23. Nxf4 +2.72
22. ... Qe8 23. Nf4 +2.91
22. ... Be8 23. Nf4 +3.00

Now I agree perhaps the position is not quite dire enough to warrent resignation yet. The person to ask is Ironman if you want the reason.

i dont see it either - pawn up seems to @ least halt the attack for a good while...

dan