Abiogenesis and evolution: James Tour

@kellyjay said
You should simply do a little reading on biology you say some things that are just plain wrong. A huge portion of life is information processing, if that were not true nothing repeatable would occur within tight parameters, and nothing would continue to form correctly. Where do you get your information, from the school of "I see nothing?"

Are you on the autism spectrum by any chance?

@moonbus said
What you or anyone else thinks is appropriate has nothing to do with the chemistry which causes blood to clot. No more so than what you or anyone else thinks is appropriate has anything to do with solar flares or micro-organisms at the bottom of the ocean.

Look it up
biological information theory

@kellyjay said
Look it up
biological information theory

Did you “look up” the pubmed article I’ve given you a dozen times?

@kellyjay said
Look it up
biological information theory

To which scientific work should we refer for more information on talking snakes, a 6000 year old earth, virgin births, and miracles in general?

@indonesia-phil said
To which scientific work should we refer for more information on talking snakes, a 6000 year old earth, virgin births, and miracles in general?

zzz are you brain dead, seriously the whole thread is about Abiogenesis and evolution and you are stuck on talking snakes, take to the Spritial forum, what a dumb ass you are. Even an Atheistic worldview has to deal with miracles when you either have nothing acting upon nothing making everything, or everything despite everything pointing towards a beginning suggesting the universe is eternal, which has no evidence for. I can always count on your one-track mind that cannot speak to anything reasonable on topic. You have nothing to offer on the topic and so you bring up talking snakes, leave, then bring up talking snakes, leave, then bring up talking snakes.

@kellyjay said
zzz are you brain dead, seriously the whole thread is about Abiogenesis and evolution and you are stuck on talking snakes, take to the Spritial forum, what a dumb ass you are. Even an Atheistic worldview has to deal with miracles when you either have nothing acting upon nothing making everything, or everything despite everything pointing towards a beginning suggesting the u ...[text shortened]... u bring up talking snakes, leave, then bring up talking snakes, leave, then bring up talking snakes.

Oh dear, you're really getting upset about this, aren't you. You refer people to 'scientific' works to try to verify your beliefs, I'm merely asking you, with your deep understanding of science, to point us to the research which you must have undertaken in order to verify your beliefs in, such things as talking snakes, a 6000 year old earth, virgin births.....This is a purely scientific matter and belongs nowhere but here, so kindly answer the question, or can't you.....

@indonesia-phil said
Oh dear, you're really getting upset about this, aren't you. You refer people to 'scientific' works to try to verify your beliefs, I'm merely asking you, with your deep understanding of science, to point us to the research which you must have undertaken in order to verify your beliefs in, such things as talking snakes, a 6000 year old earth, virgin births.....This is ...[text shortened]... ely scientific matter and belongs nowhere but here, so kindly answer the question, or can't you.....

Not upset just disappointed in that you are not engaging in the discussion, you are simply looking at one thing that could only be true if the universe was made top down with a mind and a spiritual realm.

While you offer NOTHING to support your views. You may as well be a grade school child with your hands covering your face saying no, no, no without reasons to support yourself.

With God creating the universe acts that are not normally seen are possible since the universe would not be a closed system.

@kellyjay said
Not upset just disappointed in that you are not engaging in the discussion, you are simply looking at one thing that could only be true if the universe was made top down with a mind and a spiritual realm.

While you offer NOTHING to support your views. You may as well be a grade school child with your hands covering your face saying no, no, no without reasons to support y ...[text shortened]... iverse acts that are not normally seen are possible since the universe would not be a closed system.

What scientific evidence do you have that your god created the universe? It's clear that you have none, and your attempts to crowbar science into your 2000 + year old mythology, which is what this thread has always been about, are increasingly ridiculous. You can throw insults about as much as you want, it merely confirms that you have nothing of any substance left to say. Belief is belief, science is science, I suggest that you stop trying to pretend otherwise.

@indonesia-phil said
What scientific evidence do you have that your god created the universe? It's clear that you have none, and your attempts to crowbar science into your 2000 + year old mythology, which is what this thread has always been about, are increasingly ridiculous. You can throw insults about as much as you want, it merely confirms that you have nothing of any substance left to say. Belief is belief, science is science, I suggest that you stop trying to pretend otherwise.

You believe science is not believable?

@kellyjay said
You believe science is not believable?

Science does not require belief, this is a fundamental thing which you don't understand, and until you do, you will always fall into the same intellectual trap as your pretend scientist.

@kellyjay said
While you offer NOTHING to support your views.

Did you read the pubmed article which you’ve had offered to you maybe a dozen times?

@kellyjay said
You believe science is not believable?

What is your personal explanation for the cause of gravity?

@indonesia-phil said
What scientific evidence do you have that your god created the universe? It's clear that you have none, and your attempts to crowbar science into your 2000 + year old mythology, which is what this thread has always been about, are increasingly ridiculous. You can throw insults about as much as you want, it merely confirms that you have nothing of any substance left to say. Belief is belief, science is science, I suggest that you stop trying to pretend otherwise.

Science is a very limited method there are many things it simply cannot measure in any capacity. You seem to be under the illusion that if we can not use any scientific method to determine what is true it cannot be true or known.

Is that true for you, that if science’s limitations are reached then all bets about reality are lost? Is science the only way to know something, even a scientific statement, or a philosophical one?

Philosophy matter in your worldview can you understand things science cannot?

@kellyjay said
Science is a very limited method there are many things it simply cannot measure in any capacity.

Such as?

@kellyjay said
You seem to be under the illusion that if we can not use any scientific method to determine what is true it cannot be true or known.

What specifically, in Indonesia Phil’s post gives you this particular impression?