Abiogenesis and evolution: James Tour

@kellyjay said
Is that true for you, that if science’s limitations are reached then all bets about reality are lost?

Your post here seems to be one big non sequitur.

@divegeester said
What specifically, in Indonesia Phil’s post gives you this particular impression?

He lacks or understands Knowing & Growing spiritually with God over time along with faith, trust, and times fear. Science doesn’t do well understanding or accessing our mind, souls ability or what is passed between in directions.

@mike69 said
He lacks or understands Knowing & Growing spiritually with God over time along with faith, trust, and times fear.

This is your opinion of Indonesia Phil based on him not sharing yours (nor mine) spiritual beliefs, but it is not gleaned from the post he made which is why I asked kellyjay my question and makes his reply to Phil a non sequitur.

@mike69 said
Science doesn’t do well understanding or accessing our mind, souls ability or what is passed between in directions.

I disagree. Science can access our minds through scans, psychology, psychiatry, and the plethora of cognitive therapies.

As for “souls”, well there is no evidence whatsoever that they exist.

@indonesia-phil said
Science does not require belief, this is a fundamental thing which you don't understand, and until you do, you will always fall into the same intellectual trap as your pretend scientist.

There is nothing in our lives so pure as to not require belief. You believe your mind understands the universe despite the belief, you think our minds and the universe are the end products of a long string of mindless processes.

Do you believe that when you are doing science there are fundamental things that can give you an understanding to your consciousness despite not knowing what consciousness really is but you get enlightened nonetheless? Do you believe that the universe is composed of nothing more than a material it is made of, which on its face is not true, the immaterial is also here. Do you believe the immaterial pieces of the universe are products from the material as a bottom-up makeup? These things you are sure of without belief as you begin your science, do you believe these things are true?

So if you are wrong about that, that instead, the material is derivative of the immaterial, making the universe a top-down universe, then right off at the start everything you believe is wrong.

Then there is your piss poor judgment on Dr. Tour being a pretend scientist, you are the pretender. Next to him what are your credentials, I can pull him off the web, are you so famous I can look up you, and find out why your views over his should be taken when it comes to chemistry. Your arrogance and lack of understanding is astounding.

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James M. Tour, a synthetic organic chemist, received his Bachelor of Science degree in chemistry from Syracuse University, his Ph.D. in synthetic organic and organometallic chemistry from Purdue University, and postdoctoral training in synthetic organic chemistry at the University of Wisconsin and Stanford University. After spending 11 years on the faculty of the Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry at the University of South Carolina, he joined the Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology at Rice University in 1999 where he is presently the T. T. and W. F. Chao Professor of Chemistry, Professor of Computer Science, and Professor of Materials Science and NanoEngineering. Tour’s scientific research areas include nanoelectronics, graphene electronics, silicon oxide electronics, carbon nanovectors for medical applications, green carbon research for enhanced oil recovery and environmentally friendly oil and gas extraction, graphene photovoltaics, carbon supercapacitors, lithium ion batteries, CO2 capture, water splitting to H2 and O2, water purification, carbon nanotube and graphene synthetic modifications, graphene oxide, carbon composites, hydrogen storage on nanoengineered carbon scaffolds, and synthesis of single-molecule nanomachines which includes molecular motors and nanocars. He has also developed strategies for retarding chemical terrorist attacks. For pre-college education, Tour developed the NanoKids concept for K-12 education in nanoscale science, and also Dance Dance Revolution and Guitar Hero science packages for elementary and middle school education: SciRave that later expanded to a Stemscopes-based SciRave. The SciRave program has risen to be the #1 most widely adopted program in Texas to complement science instruction, and it is currently used by over 450 school districts and 40,000 teachers with over 1 million student downloads.

Professor Tour has over 785 research publications, over 130 granted patents and over 100 pending patents. He has an h-index = 170 with total citations over 133,000. In 2021, he won the Oesper Award from the American Chemical Society which is awarded to “outstanding chemists for lifetime significant accomplishments in the field of chemistry with long-lasting impact on the chemical sciences.” In 2020, he became a Fellow of the Royal Society of Chemistry and in the same year was awarded the Royal Society of Chemistry’s Centenary Prize for innovations in materials chemistry with applications in medicine and nanotechnology. Based on the impact of his published work, in 2019 Tour was ranked in the top 0.004% of the 7 million scientists who have published at least 5 papers in their careers. He was inducted into the National Academy of Inventors in 2015. Tour was named among “The 50 Most Influential Scientists in the World Today” by TheBestSchools.org in 2019; listed in “The World’s Most Influential Scientific Minds” by Thomson Reuters ScienceWatch.com in 2014; and recipient of the Trotter Prize in “Information, Complexity and Inference” in 2014; and was the Lady Davis Visiting Professor, Hebrew University, June, 2014. Tour was named “Scientist of the Year” by R&D Magazine, 2013. He was awarded the George R. Brown Award for Superior Teaching, 2012, Rice University; won the ACS Nano Lectureship Award from the American Chemical Society, 2012; was the Lady Davis Visiting Professor, Hebrew University, June, 2011 and was elected Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), 2009. Tour was ranked one of the Top 10 chemists in the world over the past decade, by a Thomson Reuters citations per publication index survey, 2009; won the Distinguished Alumni Award, Purdue University, 2009 and the Houston Technology Center’s Nanotechnology Award in 2009. He won the Feynman Prize in Experimental Nanotechnology in 2008, the NASA Space Act Award in 2008 for his development of carbon nanotube reinforced elastomers and the Arthur C. Cope Scholar Award from the American Chemical Society for his achievements in organic chemistry in 2007. Tour was the recipient of the George R. Brown Award for Superior Teaching in 2007. He also won the Small Times magazine’s Innovator of the Year Award in 2006, the Nanotech Briefs Nano 50 Innovator Award in 2006, the Alan Berman Research Publication Award, Department of the Navy in 2006, the Southern Chemist of the Year Award from the American Chemical Society in 2005 and The Honda Innovation Award for Nanocars in 2005. Tour’s paper on Nanocars was the most highly accessed journal article of all American Chemical Society articles in 2005, and it was listed by LiveScience as the second most influential paper in all of science in 2005. Tour has won several other national awards including the National Science Foundation Presidential Young Investigator Award in Polymer Chemistry and the Office of Naval Research Young Investigator Award in Polymer Chemistry.

Professor Tour is the founder and principal of NanoJtech Consultants, LLC, performing technology assessments for the prospective investor. Tour’s intellectual property has been the seed for the formation of several other companies including Weebit (silicon oxide electronic memory), Dotz (graphene quantum), Zeta Energy (batteries), NeuroCords (spinal cord repair), Xerient (treatment of pancreas cancer), LIGC Application Ltd. (laser-induced graphene), Nanorobotics (molecular nanomachines in medicine) Universal Matter Ltd. (US) and Universal Matter Inc. (Canada) (flash graphene synthesis), Roswell Biotechnologies (molecular electronic DNA sequencing) and Rust Patrol (corrosion inhibitors).

Professor Tour has served as a visiting scholar at Harvard University, on the Chemical Reviews Editorial Advisory Board, the Governor’s Mathematics and Science Advisory Board for South Carolina, the Defense Science Study Group through the Institute for Defense Analyses, the Defense Science Board Chem/Nano Study Section, the Department of Commerce Emerging Technology and Research Advisory Committee and the MD Anderson Cancer Research Center’s Competitive Grant Renewal Board. He has been active in consulting on several national defense-related topics, in addition to numerous other professional committees and panels.

@divegeester said
I disagree. Science can access our minds through scans, psychology, psychiatry, and the plethora of cognitive therapies.

Kinda like having a picture of a black hole and think you understand the mysteries of it along with abilities.

@sonhouse said
@divegeester
I think the soul thing is just another example of the man made nature of all religions.
I can't imagine a god making religions around the world that go after each other's throats IN THE NAME OF SOME GOD OR OTHER. Seems to me proof enough no god was involved in ANY human religion.
For instance, where is a real god when we really need one, nuclear war a distinc ...[text shortened]... god, it want's humans to go extinct which we have been working on diligently for the past 100 years.

If you take into account Satan then it is reasonable that he would have people in every religion possible going after one another, including the one we use to identify the way God gave us for redemption. Doing something evil in the name of righteousness, goodness, and truth is quite the deception obscuring it making it look no different than the rest if you are not looking closely.

@kellyjay said
There is nothing in our lives so pure as to not require belief. You believe your mind understands the universe despite the belief, you think our minds and the universe are the end products of a long string of mindless processes.

Do you believe that when you are doing science there are fundamental things that can give you an understanding to your consciousness despite not ...[text shortened]... l national defense-related topics, in addition to numerous other professional committees and panels.

Oh dear, here comes a sonship style copy/paste aimed at drowning out Indonesia Phil in a mass of intellectual slurry.

@kellyjay said
There is nothing in our lives so pure as to not require belief. You believe your mind understands the universe despite the belief, you think our minds and the universe are the end products of a long string of mindless processes.

Do you believe that when you are doing science there are fundamental things that can give you an understanding to your consciousness despite not ...[text shortened]... l national defense-related topics, in addition to numerous other professional committees and panels.

You're still missing the fundamental point, which I'm not going to explain to you again, if you haven't got it by now, you probably never will.

@divegeester said
Oh dear, here comes a sonship style copy/paste aimed at drowning out Indonesia Phil in a mass of intellectual slurry.

It's okay Mister Divegeester, I'm not even getting wet. Have a good day.

@indonesia-phil said
You're still missing the fundamental point, which I'm not going to explain to you again, if you haven't got it by now, you probably never will.

You have explained nothing, you make religious claims not arguments, there is no reasoning behind any point you make only declaring that you are right and I am wrong.

@kellyjay said
you make religious claims not arguments, there is no reasoning behind any point you make only declaring that you are right and I am wrong.

But isn’t this exactly what you do here everyday KellyJay?

@indonesia-phil said
It's okay Mister Divegeester, I'm not even getting wet. Have a good day.

Why should you, you call Dr Tour names and when confronted with his accomplishments you do what you typically do run away without either acknowledging your errors or defending your position. Go slink under a rock and come out when you think bringing up talking snakes 🐍 is a valid scientific argument again.

@kellyjay said
Why should you, you call Dr Tour names and when confronted with his accomplishments you do what you typically do run away without either acknowledging your errors or defending your position. Go slink under a rock and come out when you think bringing up talking snakes 🐍 is a valid scientific argument again.

Well, if James Tour names amongst his 'accomplishments' his apparent ability to convince people like you that mythology is fact, then he's a disgrace to the scientific community, regardless of what else he may have achieved. I wonder if James Tour thinks that snakes can talk, what do you reckon?