addiction is a choice

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a 6th post in a row in case that's a record and I win something

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Originally posted by apathist
Is OCD an addiction in your opinion?
How about answering my question and I'll answer yours!

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Originally posted by apathist
I admit this is a subject where standard definitions can lead us astray.
Ah ha, then you have brought the subject to the right forum!

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Originally posted by apathist
If we trust AMA, it is a disorder, not a disease.
Reference please.

Here is mine:
http://www.centeronaddiction.org/addiction/disease-model-addiction
Addiction is defined as a disease by most medical associations, including the American Medical Association and the American Society of Addiction Medicine.


The 'disease' meme is pretty strong in our culture. It takes a free thinker to get past it. Hey! Learn about rat park.
It isn't a 'meme'. It is the standard definition of disease.

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Originally posted by apathist
.... and there is no doubt that recovery from any addiction is possible.
That depends on what you mean by recovery. Some addictions leave a life long effect and desire of the drug / action.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Reference please. ...
http://www.thecleanslate.org/myths/addiction-is-not-a-brain-disease-it-is-a-choice/
http://imaging.ubmmedica.com/CME/pt/content/p0210pt1.jpg
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90688&page=1
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3047254/

Those are examples. The situation is in flux, and america is behind on this. Here we sue mcdonalds for our hamburger addiction. As if eating burgers is not a choice!

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Originally posted by twhitehead
That depends on what you mean by recovery. Some addictions leave a life long effect and desire of the drug / action.
You recover when you regain control.

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Originally posted by KellyJay
How about answering my question and I'll answer yours!
I've found no reason to care about your opinion on anything.

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Originally posted by stellspalfie
dis·ease (di-zēz'😉,
1. An interruption, cessation, or disorder of a body, system, or organ structure or function.
See also: syndrome. Synonym(s): illness, morbus, sickness

looks like addictions fits the description to me.
I stubbed my toe. Aw snap just caught a disease.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
It isn't a 'meme'. It is the standard definition of disease.
It is definitely a meme. That's what the standard dictionaries reflect.

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Six in a row again! Clearly I suffer from the disease of sixitis.

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Originally posted by apathist
http://www.thecleanslate.org/myths/addiction-is-not-a-brain-disease-it-is-a-choice/
http://imaging.ubmmedica.com/CME/pt/content/p0210pt1.jpg
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90688&page=1
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3047254/

Those are examples.
But not examples of what I actually asked for.
You claimed:
If we trust AMA, it is a disorder, not a disease.

Clearly your inability to back that up with a suitable reference suggests you were lying.

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Originally posted by apathist
I've found no reason to care about your opinion on anything.
Thought you would go there, make it personal to avoid the topic.

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Originally posted by apathist
a 6th post in a row in case that's a record and I win something
Only if the six posts were worth reading.

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Thought you would go there, make it personal to avoid the topic.
Clean slate please. I'm sorry for being so stupid. I like thinking about stuff and trying to figure things out. The world is so wonderful!

So please what is the issue here that you are willing to talk about?