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Originally posted by roigam
We are imperfect people as everyone is.
We continue to study the Bible and learn as no doubt you do also.
Sometimes the Bible reveals things that will take place but does not give the time.
In our anxious anticipation of good things we know will occur we "jump the gun" as they say in track meets.
The only "prediction" I know of personally is concerning 19 ...[text shortened]... ew 24:42) Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

So you can't be trusted as prophets despite being the sole holders of God's truth on earth?

Originally posted by divegeester
So you can't be trusted as prophets despite being the sole holders of God's truth on earth?

That doesn't even deserve a reply.

I take that back. It does deserve a reply.

Jw's do not claim to be prophets.
We are merely Bible students.
Evenso, the Bible is a book of prophecy and if you study it you sometimes (Jehovah willing) see what is to come.
When we learn of something we are responsible to tell others.
(Ezekiel 3:17) “Son of man, I have appointed you as a watchman to the house of Israel; and when you hear a word from my mouth, you must warn them from me.
(Ezekiel 33:6) “‘But if the watchman sees the sword coming and he does not blow the horn and the people receive no warning and a sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that person will die for his own error, but I will ask his blood back from the watchman.’
We preach and teach what Jehovah has foretold.

Originally posted by roigam
JW's do not claim to be prophets.
We are merely Bible students.
Even so, the Bible is a book of prophecy and if you study it you sometimes (Jehovah willing) see what is to come.
When we learn of something we are responsible to tell others.

On the numerous occasions over the last 100 or more years when the JW organisation has made major predictions, forecasts, prognostications, prognoses, or supposed divinations based on what it claimed to have learned from studying the Bible - after which it then exercised its "responsibility" to tell others - how many times was the organisation right and how many times was the organisation wrong about "what is to come"?

Originally posted by roigam
That doesn't even deserve a reply.

I take that back. It does deserve a reply.

Jw's do not claim to be prophets.
We are merely Bible students.
Evenso, the Bible is a book of prophecy and if you study it you sometimes (Jehovah willing) see what is to come.
When we learn of something we are responsible to tell others.
(Ezekiel 3:17) “Son of man, I have ...[text shortened]... ut I will ask his blood back from the watchman.’
We preach and teach what Jehovah has foretold.

But your organisation has made numourous prophesies about future events many of which have blatantly not come true. Your leaders are false prophets according to the Bible definition.

Claiming your leaders have not claimed to be prophets, when clearly over the years that have been prophesying, is just dishonesty added to your false phrophesy.

Originally posted by divegeester
It could be argued that doing away with death is not a good thing.

For example in sonship's and many of the other Christians who post in here, religious world... there will be the billions of poor schmucks in hell who are supernaturally kept alive while the inferno melts the flesh from their bones for eternity while Jesus and his angels spectate the unbelievable holocaust.

Does the version of Christianity that you subscribe to contain any form of judgement? (This is a serious question)

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Does the version of Christianity that you subscribe to contain any form of judgement? (This is a serious question)

Why don't you start a thread about it instead of hijacking this one? (This is a serious suggestion)

Originally posted by divegeester
But your organisation has made numourous prophesies about future events many of which have blatantly not come true. Your leaders are false prophets according to the Bible definition.

Claiming your leaders have not claimed to be prophets, when clearly over the years that have been prophesying, is just dishonesty added to your false phrophesy.

Whatever.
You obviously are completely biased.
You have a right to your opinion. Keep it.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Does the version of Christianity that you subscribe to contain any form of judgement? (This is a serious question)

Only the judgement the Bible outlines.
(2 Peter 3:7) But by the same word the heavens and the earth that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people.
(Psalm 37:10, 11) Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there. 11 But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Does the version of Christianity that you subscribe to contain any form of judgement? (This is a serious question)

Just to clarify, regardless of what others say, the Bible says
(Genesis 3:19) In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”
Hell fire suffering is a myth.
There is only the Grave.
(2 Thessalonians 1:9) These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting .....destruction..... from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength,
Notice "destruction" not torture.
1John says, "...God is love."
A loving God would not torture anyone forever for the mistakes of a short lifetime.

Originally posted by roigam
Whatever.
You obviously are completely biased.

And you're not, somehow?

"Whatever" is a complete dodge; and the question you're dodging is completely valid.

Originally posted by FMF
And you're not, somehow?

"Whatever" is a complete dodge; and the question you're dodging is completely valid.

Its not a dodge for no one is under any duress to give credence to the ignorance and bigotry of others.

As has been explained, Jehovah witnesses have not authored nor originated a single prophesy. All they have sought to do is understand prophecies that have already been written making the assertion that they claim to be prophets, claim to have made prophesies nothing more than a bare faced lie and the projection of an ignorant and prejudiced mind.

Lets take a look at the ignorance of your statement,

'supposed divinations' - FMF

oh dear Jehovahs witnesses regard divination as being contrary to scripture and would never engage in it making your claim nothing more than the self evident expression of an ignorant and prejudiced mind.

Roigam therefore has perfectly valid reasons to desist from engaging with either you or your lapdog because firstly you are only interested in contentiousness for its own sake and quite frankly what a tedious thing it is to battle against such ignorance. Secondly the lie is being perpetrated that Jehovahs witness claim to be prophets, which is quite simply false. Furthermore your lapdog himself seems to know nothing about his own faith for there is an entire thread waiting for him and yet he seems incapable of explaining a single thing about it.

Oh dear a very poor show even by your low standards.

Originally posted by roigam
Whatever.
You obviously are completely biased.
You have a right to your opinion. Keep it.

Its the course of wisdom to desist from engaging with them, it really is an act in futility, they will contribute nothing to your spiritual understanding and you will learn absolutely nothing about anything.

FMF spent allegedly 20 years as a 'Christian' and knowns next to nothing about scripture and divegeester seems unable to tell us a single thing about his own faith yet seems to be an expert on the faith of others. What are we to expect from such ignorant and unlearned men? reason? content? discernment? understanding? or a battle against their ignorance?

What a predictable reaction.

"How many JW predictions have come true?"

Aaagghhh... CIRCLE THE WAGONS. CIRCLE THE WAGONS. DON'T ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. DON'T ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. ATTACK THE POSTER. THE POSTER.

Same old same old. 😀

Originally posted by FMF
What a predictable reaction.

"How many JW predictions have come true?"

Aaagghhh... CIRCLE THE WAGONS. CIRCLE THE WAGONS. DON'T ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. DON'T ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. ATTACK THE POSTER. THE POSTER.

Same old same old. 😀

more nothingness from someone that spent twenty years as some kind of alleged 'Christian' but cannot tell one end of the Bible from another. How many? How do you suppose that someone quantify the number of prophesies that one attempts to understand? because that all that have done. It makes sense that as ones knowledge grows then so does ones understand and even then different people have different levels of understanding. What a thoroughly stupid question that betrays nothing more than ignorance, but its what we have come to expect from such dullards. wagons? oh dear you deluded fool its clear that you don't even understand a single thing about what they were trying to grasp.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
more nothingness from someone that spent twenty years as some kind of alleged 'Christian' but cannot tell one end of the Bible from another. How many? How do you suppose that someone quantify the number of prophesies that one attempts to understand? because that all that have done. It makes sense that as ones knowledge grows then so does ones unders ...[text shortened]... hat betrays nothing more than ignorance, but its what we have come to expect from such dullards.

DON'T ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. ATTACK THE POSTER. 😀