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    @kellyjay said
    Well, if you are okay with the state of man as is, as you are, and when you look
    around and believe all of this to be as it should be, individually and corporately
    on the whole, so be it.
    You believe that ALL humans deserve to be tortured in burning flames for eternity, right? And you believe that the only way this fate can be avoided is through Christian faith, yes?
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    @kellyjay said
    I agree that He can get angry. He is also vengeful and Jealous. The rest I would
    lump into our perspectives, not the nature of God. Disproportionate assumes you
    know the full extent of what He does and why He does it. Unlike us, He grasps
    the eternal consequence of everything He judges as evil and, being righteous, sees
    the just recompense for said evil. That said, petty ...[text shortened]... e happy to have us in His kingdom; we are the delusional arrogant ones if
    any of us think that way.
    @kellyjay said
    I agree that He can get angry. He is also vengeful and Jealous. The rest I would lump into our perspectives, not the nature of God. Disproportionate assumes you know the full extent of what He does and why He does it. Unlike us, He grasps the eternal consequence of everything He judges as evil and, being righteous, sees the just recompense for said evil. That said, petty, cruel, and needy are not things I would apply to someone good, righteous, and who sees the beginning from the end, unlike us who cannot even grasp what is going on right in front of us many times. Being eternal and unchanging every moment for us in time, He has an infinite
    amount of time to dwell on all consequences; also, unlike us, He isn't limited to just this lifetime but also what is to come, so those things He finds important may be meaningless to us, and many things we find and believe are important are nothing to Him. Being the eternal, self-existent One, there is nothing needy about Him; we are the ones dependent upon Him for everything! I doubt very much how thankful
    we should be to Him in all the things He does for us, and if we think He would or should be happy to have us in His kingdom; we are the delusional arrogant ones if any of us think that way.


    Is all this stuff about the attributes of the Christian version of the Abrahamic God figure also true for the Jewish and Islamic versions too?
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    05 Jul '22 08:59
    @kellyjay said
    You do spend an inordinate amount of time talking about others than the topics at hand.
    I spend time talking about what others believe regarding the topics at hand. If you think it is "inordinate", that's a matter for you.
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    05 Jul '22 08:35
    @suzianne said
    "who can solve a rubic cube in less they minute"
    I am not capable of solving a rubik's cube in a minute, but I did solve it the first - and only - time I ever tried to do so; it took about 25 minutes; it was in the back of a minibus in April 1981 going from Llandudno to St. Albans.

    Having solved it once, I never saw the point of trying to do it again.
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    05 Jul '22 08:27
    Gosh
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    @fmf said
    Ignosticism
    "Ignosticism and theological noncognitivism are similar although, whereas the ignostic says '...every theological position assumes too much about the concept of God', the theological noncognitivist claims to have no concept whatever to label as "a concept of God", but the relationship of ignosticism to other nontheistic views is less clear. While some find the view to be compatible with both weak atheism and agnosticism, other philosophers consider ignosticism to be distinct." [see wiki]

    Talking about this issue, although it is merely one about how terminology applies to perceptions, is currently apt seeing as KellyJay appears to be insisting that NOT being a believer in the Christian/Abrahamic God equals denying "the possibility of something that transcends the universe."

    Any thoughts on how the notion of "ignosticism" or "igtheism" can inform the hardline partisan posturing of religionists as they seek to commandeer the concept of "God"?
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    05 Jul '22 02:19
    I stumbled across this: Ignosticism.

    I'd never heard of it before. This probably belongs on the "Attributes of God" thread, but never mind.

    "Ignosticism is the idea that the question of the existence of God is meaningless because the word 'God' has no coherent and unambiguous definition." [wiki]
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    05 Jul '22 01:05
    Women: Know Your Limits!

    YouTube

    Look Listen & Take Heed Women Keep Your Virtue

    YouTube

    [Pity about the canned laughter]
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    05 Jul '22 00:45
    @kellyjay said
    In your opinion
    Well, if you choose to be deceitful in the same way again, you can be referred back to this OP.
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    05 Jul '22 00:34
    @kellyjay said
    How do you describe yourself again?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheism

    By pretending that it's a stance that's too difficult for you to understand, you are demeaning yourself, KellyJay.
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    05 Jul '22 00:26
    @kellyjay said
    You can not have what you reject as being real to begin with. Saying you use to have something that was never real confirms you never had it.
    I am not a "Theist". Don't be so silly.
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    @kellyjay said
    Just taking you at your word, nothing more than that.
    Nope. You are not taking me at my word, kellyJay. You are lying about it.
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    04 Jul '22 13:24
    Gosh again
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    Gosh
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