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    @whodey said
    At the very end of the democrat debates, Biden was giving his closing thoughts when some women began screaming at him.

    WTH? Who were they are what were they screaming?

    And should the have the next debate with a padded cell for the Left wing audience?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/19/us/politics/immigration-protest-democratic-debate.html
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    18 Feb '20 16:29
    @averagejoe1 said
    Sure fit Trump today.
    Bread and circuses.
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    @whodey said
    I say "some things" all the time and it's not like lightening tries to strike me or anything.

    I realize many try to avoid the topic of politics/religion at all costs.

    Me, on the other hand, I go right to it. That's because both address how we should behave and think. Everything else is fluff.
    You are the prototypical political hobbyist.
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    @handyandy said
    When it comes to politics, some things are better left unsaid.
    “ Keeping up with American politics can feel like a feat. And we tend to think that knowing the latest news means that we're engaged. But what happens when being informed is the end of our commitment to politics?

    "The way that people are doing politics is much more similar to a hobby than to what I think of as politics, which is, you know, acquiring power," says Eitan Hersh, a professor of political science at Tufts University. He says many Americans are engaging in what he calls "political hobbyism."

    "What they're actually doing is not participating themselves in any active way. They're really just following the news."

    This news increasingly comes from cable TV and social media, and the stories that get our attention are usually national stories, not local ones. Scandals and entertainment are also more appealing than discussions of policy or even what's happening in our own neighborhoods.

    "What news do political junkies demand? Outrage and gossip. Why? Because it's alluring. What news do we avoid? Local news. Why? It's boring," Hersh writes in his book, Politics is for Power.”

    https://www.npr.org/2020/02/10/804612601/passion-isnt-enough-the-rise-of-political-hobbyism-in-the-united-states
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    @no1marauder said
    Frederick Douglass in 1860 had the view that the Constitution was clearly an anti-slavery document made by men who believed the institution would soon disappear from the United States.

    Regarding the 3/5 compromise:

    "It is a downright disability laid upon the slaveholding States; one which deprives those States of two-fifths of their natural basis of representation. ...[text shortened]... istory.org/library/document/the-constitution-of-the-united-states-is-it-pro-slavery-or-anti-slavery/
    “ Anyone of these provisions in the hands of abolition statesmen, and backed up by a right moral sentiment, would put an end to slavery in America. "

    Clearly there was political power in the hands of men other than ‘abolition statesmen,’ and these others were backed by moral sentiments regarding the proper divinely- and naturally-intended arrangement of society. Enslavement, as a currently necessary link in a rising capitalistic cotton plantation economy, was just too fitted to their world view, to be morally unacceptable to these men. For example, the invention of mechanized cotton ginning made a strong case for keeping and increasing the torture-induced efficiency of manual picking, until mechanized picking could be competitive. Such an improvement had to beat out the manual picking system, it wasn’t going away on moral principles alone.
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    @suzianne said
    Regarding those "alternative views", whodey is ALWAYS wrong, count on it.

    As to the rest, I recommend American Oligarchs: The Kushners, the Trumps and the Marriage of Money and Power.
    https://www.npr.org/2020/01/08/794509417/american-oligarchs-reveals-how-trump-kushner-families-learned-to-work-the-system

    The founding fathers were the original beneficent oligarc ...[text shortened]... Money Taking Over America. At one time, Ethics was actually A Thing in American politics. No more.
    Thanks. An earlier instance of Malignant Money was the dependence on enslavement and systematic torture of Africans to fund the development of American Capitalism. The institution of slavery is the greater sin, by far.

    A few of the Founders may have seen it coming, but they were willing to kick the can down the road.
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    14 Feb '20 15:52
    We may soon see, with Barr, whether the worm has turned.
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    13 Feb '20 15:42
    @earl-of-trumps said
    @Shallow-Blue Republibertarian Grand Panjandrums aimed for: a party, and country, subservient to their oligarchic clique.

    So you include Libertarians as being people subservient to their oligarchic clique?

    LOLOLOL. moron
    When necessary, they put aside their idealism and vote Republican, you can bet on that.
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    @suzianne said
    Take a peek at just the preamble if the rest of it is too complicated. The preamble lays out the intent.
    You’re accusing me of being too simple-minded? There’s a reason those ideals are in the Preamble.

    I’ve recently been swayed by alternative views. Maybe I’ll get over it.

    But I think the founders who compromised their way info their less perfect union set themselves an impossible task. American Capitalism was founded on the profits of enslavement. It’s still being exported globally. And where’s the ERA? Oh yes, the bogus expiry on 3/4 approval has come and gone.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Because the Constitution and the Common Good cannot co-exist.
    The constitution was never intended to promote the common good, it was intended to promote the interests of land-owning males of European origin.
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    12 Feb '20 01:44
    @dood111 said
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    Protest against white people....for being white people.
    You know the brainwashing is complete.
    Yes, it is complete, for some. A good read on whiteness, below. The whole series is worthwhile. It’s not racism, at bottom. Trump et al aren’t racists; at most race is part of the con. It’s about power. Racism is for the distraction and manipulation of white people who are so removed from power that they need to be kept from realizing that they are as much victims of the power elite as those they are taught to categorize as “black” and therefore to be hated.

    http://www.sceneonradio.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/SeeingWhite_Part14Transcript.pdf
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