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    22 Oct '20 00:49
    @vivify said
    Assuming the person in office is someone you gladly voted for, would you take a bullet to save the life of your world leader?
    On principle, democracy believers in democratic societies should all be willing to take a bullet for democratically elected world leaders, as we are then not taking a bullet for any particular person... but taking it for a whole system.

    When that stops, the state is in a bad position. There is no longer trust or reason for it to be united together.
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    21 Oct '20 08:22
    @moonbus said
    If Trump is doing anything for conservative Christians, it isn't because he believes in what conservative Christians believe in. He does nothing for anyone but himself; his nominee for the SC has no interest for him, apart from securing the Evangelical vote in the upcoming election. Hardly a holy or even a noble motive. The most charitable interpretation I can put on it is th ...[text shortened]... of powers, blatant abuse of power, nepotism, philandering, etc.) just to get Roe overturned?
    I think that there are plenty of Christians and pro-life people who think Trump is an idiot who will be casting their vote for him on Nov. 3rd.

    The feeling is mutual.

    He uses us for votes; we use him for putting pro-life Judges on SCOTUS and representing us on a national level.

    If there is some who admire him, good for them. If Pres. Trump also does like us, good for him.

    I cannot judge the heart of a man.
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    21 Oct '20 08:19
    @vivify said
    When a large number of Christians continually claim Trump was chosen by God or say "Thank God for Trump", they clearly don't have independent thoughts. When they defend his lying about a pandemic, they clearly don't have "independent thoughts". When they overlook Trump cheating on is wife with a porn star then covering it by committing a crime, and watch him discuss his peni ...[text shortened]... They have a hive mindset. Not surprising given they follow a figure that refers to them as "sheep".
    I've posted on this before... But I don't know Christians saying that, and rather, I listen to a lot of conservative Christian podcasts, and there's a tidy list of people I can tell you right now who condemn his personal life but are supporting his political positions...

    Fr. Josiah Trenham (Orthodox)
    Fr. Mitch Pacwa (Catholic)
    James White (Presbyterian)
    Michael Brown (Baptist)
    Al Mohler (Baptist)

    The list goes on.

    I think you are strawmanning here.
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    20 Oct '20 23:54
    @moonbus said
    Evangelicals would do well to recall the words of Stephen Paine (then-president of the NAE) that evangelicals should be wary of increasing engagement with the government. They risk the state filling “the place which the Lord should be.” Neither the state nor faith benefits from their mingling, he argued. Particularly not when the head of state you're mingling with is Caligula ...[text shortened]... ou believe, you know. He's interested only in your vote, not your religion or your religious agenda.
    And the conservative Christians, while perhaps invested in his salvation, are basically only interested in what he can do for them as a pro-life President and as a politician standing up to their enemies.

    The feeling is mutual.

    The clarity of this becomes confused only when you assume that the Christian conservatives do not have independent thoughts on this.
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    20 Oct '20 06:37
    @kevcvs57 said
    So you demand the right to control the wombs and lives of women but deny the accusation of misogyny?
    You accuse women who have terminated a pregnancy of murder but deny the accusation of misogyny?
    So in what circumstances would you concede a woman’s right to choose?
    People with fundamentally different metaphysics on these things will never see eye to eye.

    Why remove them from their context, and forcefully reassert them in yours as a bigot..?

    You are an atheist, right? If you do not believe in any truth beyond the material, why would you bother calling people who do not agree with you on these things misogynists and the likes to begin with?
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    20 Oct '20 06:34
    @rajk999 said
    While the bible is silent on the issue of abortion, one can use their common sense and arrive at a reasonable conclusion on the issue. Paul had said that not everything he says he got it from God, but are in fact his own conclusions. Nothing is stopping the Christian from doing the same.

    A woman that is raped should be allowed to abort the unborn child if she do desires. A ...[text shortened]... annot be a sin to also kill the unborn child, as his offspring cannot continue to live in the woman.
    We've come to the conclusion that God knew us and formed us in the womb based on Biblical passages, and our Saints warned us of abortion:

    “[I]n truth, all men know that they who are under the power of this disease [the sin of covetousness] are wearied even of their father’s old age [wishing him to die so they can inherit]; and that which is sweet, and universally desirable, the having of children, they esteem grievous and unwelcome. Many at least with this view have even paid money to be childless, and have mutilated nature, not only killing the newborn, but even acting to prevent their beginning to live”

    (Homilies on Matthew 28:5 [A.D. 391]). – John Chrysostom
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    20 Oct '20 05:42
    @divegeester said
    I think that with yourself, the scenario is as I describe in my post above. And which you downvoted ...
    Strange thing.. I actually did not down vote it.
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    19 Oct '20 23:53
    I've had a post removed, and it was one in which I was dangerously close to personal insults, thus it was entirely merited.

    Other times, I have said things that were unpopular and down voted, and to many I imagine they were offensively stupid things to say... But because nobody was the target of harassment or bullying and I did not violate any other rules, they stayed up regardless of the zeal of the down votes.

    I think that the system honestly works and it serves to keep the forums clean.
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    19 Oct '20 23:34
    Kind of boring content -- a man with billions of dollars also shares a debt with a massive realty investment group... a debt that is in the form of a loan?

    If loans count as debts, then I imagine a sizable amount of the users here who haven't paid off their homes can be considered to have a massive debt, while the man I saw on a Russia Today documentary about Hong Kong cage houses that owns his 7 meter mini-flat and lives off of $500 a month is actually a very rich man as he has no debt.
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    19 Oct '20 03:21
    I had listened to Dr. Steve Turley yesterday talk about how Pres. Trump has something like a 91% chance of reelection. His big talking point was along the lines of seeing defections from GOP voters in record breaking numbers (which would be required) would be very unlikely, and many of these polls that are trying to meme a Biden victory are based off of significant Republican defections. However, Trump did receive above 88% of the primary vote (that's a scary number -- entire threads have been based on this number!) and his base appears to be pretty motivated about going to the polls for him.

    Some of these ridiculous leads that were projected for Biden have also been cut -- with polls saying that he was leading by double digits cutting his lead by 7 points.

    The polls will start to be closer in the next two weeks but will still probably not be entirely accurate.
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    15 Oct '20 00:30
    @no1marauder said
    I hate to disappoint you guys, but this "sling s**t on the wall strategy" isn't working and isn't likely to work.

    This election isn't about Joe Biden, but about an unpopular President running for re-election. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

    And one with a 54% disapproval rating isn't going to win no matter what fairy tales you dredge up.
    This is not very persuasive considering the state of American polls in 2016.

    "B-b-b-but this time izzz different!"

    Yes, four years of active celebrity & media agitation, every American oligarch railing against the President and trying to impeach him for the first three years -- it is a very different situation.

    But I still won't take your word for it.
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    14 Oct '20 23:40
    @kevcvs57 said
    Do you have a source for Anti fascists burning any buildings down in the US?
    Do you prefer fascists to anti fascists?
    During the Nazi bombing campaign of WWII the fascists burnt a lot of buildings in the UK and Eastern Europe amongst other places but you seem to think they are preferable to anti fascists because of the Luftwaffe’s inability to reach the US.
    This is not a ...[text shortened]... ss without being called on it.
    Try to remember that fascists burn people if they get half a chance.
    My cousin was there in downtown Minneapolis, 8 blocks away from the BLM riots that were destroying the city. My parents are also about a 10 minute drive from where it all happened.

    Several blocks were entirely taken over by Antifa in Seattle.

    In Portland, they burned the Police union building.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/police-union-building-broken-into-and-burned-during-portland-riots

    They burned down a 7/11 in St. Louis.
    https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/7-eleven-st-louis-riot/63-57445e3e-87a9-4a5a-9610-cec524daaf2d

    Antifa is also toppling monuments across America -- something that Nazi Germany also never did.
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    14 Oct '20 23:37
    My post was inspired by seeing this incredible Tweet:

    https://twitter.com/SohrabAhmari/status/1316446749729398790

    Here is an interesting article from the Federalist on the situation:

    Twitter joined Facebook on Wednesday in censoring the New York Post’s bombshell story detailing the discovery of emails concerning Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings.

    Verified and unverified Twitter users who attempted to share the link were met with a message stating that the Post’s story link “has been identified by Twitter or our partners as being potentially harmful.”

    Users are then directed to a page that claims the link is “potentially spammy or unsafe.”

    Sohrab Ahmari, an editor at the Post, shared his outrage about the silencing on Twitter.

    “This is a Big Tech information coup. This is a digital civil war. I, an editor at The New York Post, one of the nation’s largest papers by circulation, can’t post one of our own stories that details corruption by a major-party presidential candidate, Biden,” he wrote.


    Article continues here:

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/14/twitter-blocks-users-from-linking-to-the-new-york-posts-bombshell-hunter-biden-report/
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    14 Oct '20 07:47
    @ponderable said
    (1) would you care to put a source on that. If we count the houses destroyed in WW II in Europe alone (on the assumption, that when you use the term "Nazi" you refer to the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei NSDAP).
    Or if we only put a number on houses destroyed in the "Recihskristallnacht", how does the Antifa compare? (And I assume that you assume that Portland is now completely razed and burned&hellip😉
    The statement is actually

    But the Antifa we are talking about has burned down more buildings in America than Nazi Germany ever did.
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    14 Oct '20 05:52
    In the 39th second of the video, the victim can be heard saying "put it back," which has spawned a whole new narrative about what happened with the shooting.

    https://twitter.com/ThatOldSheepDog/status/1316018068301123587?s=19
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