@vespin said
@lstcyr
You wanted the stats. I will post them. I told you the rules at which I will count wins and losses. Other than this, I have nothing to say. When this is done, So are we. So no worries.

My apologies. It was April 8 last year that you stated:
“ The record you are showing is a lie. Go into the games and don't count the ones where I resigned very early as in less then 10 moves. I offered you draws when I had you beat because they were friendly games.
I will get you the real number of our record against each other. I should not even be able to beat you with all the play time you get. I hardly play at all and I still beat in the tournament not long ago. You should have crushed me. I gave you the name of the tournament. Go look.
I'll get you the real number in a few days. Our record against each other is very close and yes you might have some more wins than me but not by much. If I played as much as you would never beat me. I'll get the real number for you.”

It won’t be a year for about 2 weeks but I have no doubt we won’t see anything before then.

@vespin said
@lstcyr
You wanted the stats. I will post them. I told you the rules at which I will count wins and losses. Other than this, I have nothing to say. When this is done, So are we. So no worries.

Blowing smoke once again. Go back and look at the posts where you claimed that you won most of our matches. YOU said you were going to look at the stats and prove it. YOU haven’t.

I’ll believe nothing you say until you show your work. As far as being done between us, that’s also something you’ve said before. YOU can’t do that so stop saying it.

CS

@VESPIN Don't really care about all your talk. I've given you over a year to do this and now you want another week. Sure. Why not?

I'm not even sure why you are doing this. It was your idea in the first place. But go ahead.

BTW, not holding my breath.

@vespin said
Last time. Let me help Larry. The proof is if you are not lazy, is in every leader and the way they set up matches, how many matches, and specifically how many matches with specific clans. Are they using the same clans over and over and giving them 10 to 20 points per match and do the matches finish fast. Look at every player in the clan system and get to know how good they ...[text shortened]... highly doubt it though.

Enjoy feeding those points. You are not the answer, you are the problem.

Finally, we are now at the Donald part where we ignore the original conversation, spout a bunch of inanities and try to completely change the subject. Try minding your own business and none of this would have involved you. Now, when I think of you, I think of the lyrics from “The Last Supper” in Jesus Christ Superstar where Judas calls Jesus “you sad pathetic man”. Go away and finish your research on our games that you said you’d do a year ago.

Didn’t think so. Your statements are falsehoods. Prove it.

@vespin said
Doing it the right way, not using system, half way point I am ahead by 15 games. But half way stilll to go.

Why are you not better after all the games you play?You and I were in a tournament recently, you got zero points, and I just missed moving through by 3 points and there were four of us. Once again showing you can't play.

Focus on your clan team because as of now you have no voice, and are not respected.

And how’s that research going on our matches? Did the facts throw you off or were you too LAZY to do the work.

Sure, go the Donald way and pick out isolated instances of how I didn’ do well. Well, I looked at your record and you’ve won 36 tournaments since you ‘ve been on the site. I’ve won over 460 of them. I’ve won more than 36 in the last six months alone. Falsehoods again, Michael. Are you related yo Donald or did you learn that by graduating from his university?

Facts, my sad little man.

@VESPIN
How’s the research and analysis of our matches to support your absurd claim coming along. It’s been almost a year now. It can’t be that many matches, can it? Or does the data not support your falsehood?

@vespin said
Rusty is my business. Second, prove your work!!! Show Stats that prove what you say is true. You keep saying he is wrong, show in stats, clans, leaders, players, show all your work and show how he is wrong. Rusty has already proven everything he has said over the last 15 years and over 10 championships. Most of your years have been in the negative.

I feel badly for your players. My Lord you are bad.

Michael. You sad, sad person.

Slowly, just for you.

Rusty made the claim first without any proof. I can’t prove him wrong because he has not shown the analysis to back up his claim. All I have been asking him to do is show his work so all of us can see how he came to his conclusion. I suspect he just eyeballed it and is making a guess but without his analysis we can’t tell for sure.

As to your faulty argument that Rusty has been successful in clans therefore he can NOT be wrong in what he says here, it’s clearly a faulty argument from the Trump University of reasoning. Is that where your degree is from?

Don’t embarrass yourself more than you have. Just MYOB (unless you and Rusty are related or in a relationship) and encourage Rusty to show us the data and analysis supporting his claim.

@vespin said
He doesn't have to. See all your red thumbs? Nobody agrees with you and you are making yourself look really bad. Rusty has put facts in there, and done all the work. You are one of those people who will never get it, you are lazy and won't do any of the work which is why you have been so horrible in the ratings all these years, and you have nothing to say except "Rusty give ...[text shortened]...
The only person who has to prove themselves and give facts is you. Only you.

Have a nice day!

What a hunk of horse manure. MYOB

@vespin said
You are the one who needs the analysis not Rusty. The good leaders talk to each other and know what he is saying is true. And they understand it something you know nothing about. Here is a thought.... How about as the worse leader, you try to get better, and you go into all the clans on the first page and learn something. Then go through all the clans as I have for years, s ...[text shortened]... on't know what you are or how bad you are at this. Do your homework then people will listen, maybe.

Again, just the personal attacks and the challenge for me to do the work to support the statements that the two of you made. Supposedly, you both looked at the date and did the analysis. I’m just asking you to show your work.

The more you try to turn it around to me the clearer it is that you two are talking out if your behinds. Show the analysis. Prove your statements. I f you do and it shows what you claim it shows, I’ll be glad to admit it. Otherwise you guys are just blowhards.

@vespin said
Why should Rusty do the work for you. You are a leader, in theory anyway, and you should know every team, every leader, and every player or most, and you should know who you are giving points away to over and over again. I remember you had the record at NEGATIVE 170 points I think last year or the year before. There is no leader in the clan system anywhere near as bad as you. ...[text shortened]... are no better than me.

People listen to Rusty because of his knowledge. Nobody listens to you.

Hey, Michael, mind your own business. VeryRusty is trying to convince me of his falsehoods so I’m asking him to show the analysis, which he never did.

Just like I challenged you almost a year ago to show the analysis that you said you were doing about or matches together. You never did that either.

Both of you are all talk and no analysis. You should be prime recruits for the Trump campaign.

@Very-Rusty Ah, yes, next step is to resort to fantasy or as it is referred to elsewhere L-I-E-S. Show your work.

@Very-Rusty Still just talking around the fact that you did ZERO analysis and do NOT have the research to back up your falsehoods. Guess I expected better but should have known that wasn’t true. Sad, sad, sad.

@Very-Rusty Next step, resort to insults to avoid addressing the fact that YOU can NOT prove what you are saying. Show your analysis. Show something that indicates that you actually did ANY analysis except a cursory look at the data. You CAN’T, can you? Didn’t think so.

I’m guessing what’s next is the “I give up responding to him because he doesn’t agree with me tactic.

@very-rusty said
You can preach to me when you have a winning clan, and know how the system works. I really don't believe you do know how it all works, or you'd be doing much better than you are in the standings. Correct me if I am wrong on that. I've been correct on everything I've said to you. Your knowledge of how to make challenges does need work for sure, no doubt about that. "Look ve ...[text shortened]... now why clans have dropped out and we are down to a few pages compared to what we once had.

-VR

I see. You’ve given up on one vein of falsehood to try another because you CAN NOT prove what you are saying. You know why? Because you have NOT done the analysis work. Keep spouting your falsehoods and I will keep asking you to show the work until you either do the work or stop spreading falsehoods.

Didn’t think so. So sad for you.

@Very-Rusty now we try to change the subject. Is it possible because someone did NOT do any analysis except “I looked at it and it looks bad to me”? That’s what I think also. Or can you show your work?

Didn”t think so.