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  1. 07 Aug '10 23:15
    While Obama preaches sacrifice, his family frolics in Spain PETER NICHOLAS AND KATHERINE SKIBA, WASHINGTON
    August 8, 2010

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    Sasha, daughter of U.S. first lady Michelle Obama, bathes in the Mediterranean Sea in Estepona during their vacation in southern Spain. Picture: Reuters/Jon Nazca

    AS THE US economy endures high unemployment and a jittery stock market, President Barack Obama has preached sacrifice and fiscal discipline. But the pictures coming out of a sun-splashed Spanish resort may be sending a different message.

    First lady Michelle Obama is in the midst of a five-day trip to a luxury resort along with a handful of friends, her younger daughter, aides and Secret Service. Her office said the Obamas would pay for personal expenses, but would not reveal the taxpayer cost for the government employees.

    Elected officials - Democrats and Republicans - were reluctant to weigh in, not wanting to appear critical of the President's wife. But the trip provided fodder for television news shows, talk-show hosts and bloggers. Critics portrayed the foreign getaway as tone-deaf to the deep economic anxiety back home. Every first family takes vacations: the criticism aimed at Mrs Obama is that she chose to visit a foreign country rather than remain in the US and support its fragile economy.

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    Michelle Obama leaves the Spanish resort. Picture: AFP
    Just last month, Mrs Obama flew to the Florida panhandle, a tourist draw hit hard by the oil spill crisis, and delivered the message that for parents ''looking for things to do with their kids this summer … this is a wonderful place to visit''.

    The opulence of the European trip also has drawn scrutiny. Mr Obama has urged frugality in lean economic times. He once cautioned that families saving money for college shouldn't ''blow a bunch of cash in Vegas''.

    Mrs Obama is staying at the Hotel Villa Padierna, a Ritz-Carlton resort outside Marbella. It has two golf courses, a spa with Turkish baths, views of the Mediterranean and a restaurant specialising in avant-garde fare. Room rates start at $US400 ($A436.73) and rise to $US6500 for a two-bedroom villa.

    Mrs Obama flew in on a type of aircraft used by Vice-President Joe Biden. It costs the government $US11,555 an hour to operate the plane, according to the air force. Assuming a nearly eight-hour flight to nearby Malaga, the total round-trip cost of the flight is about $US178,000.
  2. 07 Aug '10 23:31
    She's the first lady. She's a democrat. She's black. She has every right to blow as much money as she wishes to blow. How dare you question her rights?
  3. 07 Aug '10 23:37
    Originally posted by Eladar
    She's the first lady. She's a democrat. She's black. She has every right to blow as much money as she wishes to blow. How dare you question her rights?
    I guess I am just bitter,, I'm sure it too will pass, when the guy is out of office..
  4. 08 Aug '10 00:18 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    While Obama preaches sacrifice, his family frolics in Spain PETER NICHOLAS AND KATHERINE SKIBA, WASHINGTON
    August 8, 2010

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    Sasha, daughter of U.S. first lady Michelle Obama, bathes in the Mediterranean Sea in Estepona d flight to nearby Malaga, the total round-trip cost of the flight is about $US178,000.
    False premise. Show me one time Obama suggested people stop spending their money.

    Actually, he implemented a variety of programs to encourage people to spend money, like the wildly successful cash for clunkers program and the first time home buyer tax credit (thanks for that BTW).

    So your editorial falls on its face from the get go. But also, I fully agree. We should have elected somebody more down to earth and poor, like the McCains.
  5. Donation bbarr
    Chief Justice
    08 Aug '10 00:20
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    We should have elected somebody more down to earth and poor, like the McCains.
    Zing!
  6. 08 Aug '10 00:38
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    First lady Michelle Obama is in the midst of a five-day trip to a luxury resort along with a handful of friends, her younger daughter, aides and Secret Service. Her office said the Obamas would pay for personal expenses, but would not reveal the taxpayer cost for the government employees.
    Wouldn't reveal the cost to tax payers? Now that is just wrong.

    It probably came out of the stimulus money.
  7. 08 Aug '10 00:40
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    AS THE US economy endures high unemployment and a jittery stock market, President Barack Obama has preached sacrifice and fiscal discipline. But the pictures coming out of a sun-splashed Spanish resort may be sending a different message.
    You just don't get it do you Hugh? Americans are suppose to tighten their belts and those in governmnet are suppose to spend as much as they can as fast as they can. It's the only way to snap out of the economic funk. You know, just like FDR did.
  8. 08 Aug '10 00:42
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    False premise. Show me one time Obama suggested people stop spending their money.

    Actually, he implemented a variety of programs to encourage people to spend money, like the wildly successful cash for clunkers program and the first time home buyer tax credit (thanks for that BTW).

    So your editorial falls on its face from the get go. ...[text shortened]... o, I fully agree. We should have elected somebody more down to earth and poor, like the McCains.
    Lol, I am somehow hooked up to a site that sends out e-mails from the White House,, I got one from Michelle Obama saying times were tough, we all need to tighten our belts?? You didn't see that one???
  9. 08 Aug '10 00:48
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    Lol, I am somehow hooked up to a site that sends out e-mails from the White House,, I got one from Michelle Obama saying times were tough, we all need to tighten our belts?? You didn't see that one???
    Nope. Link to something, anything?

    There has; however, been countless programs to encourage spending.
  10. 08 Aug '10 00:55
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    Nope. Link to something, anything?

    There has; however, been countless programs to encourage spending.
    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/127/737/Michelle_Obamas_Holiday_in_Spain_Costs_Taxpayers_Almost_a_Quarter_of_a_Million_Bucks.html

    I wish I had saved her letter to me,, I'll find it,,
  11. 08 Aug '10 01:01 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    [b]False premise. Show me one time Obama suggested people stop spending their money.
    True. In fact, Obama wants us to spend much more money than we are doing in the form of taxes for Obamacare, cap and trade, and probably a VAT in the near term. In fact, I am privy to the new tax form for 2010.

    1040 Federal Tax return

    1. Gross income. __________

    2. Multiply above amount by 10% _________

    3. Add line one and line two together. This is what you owe. __________

    4. Amount of charitable donations __________
    (Disclaimer: We no longer allow for tax deductions towards charities. We were just being nosey)

    5. What is your ethnicity or race? __________
    (Disclaimer: This has no bearing on tax return. Again, we are just being nosey so mind your own business and tell us)

    6. Would you like to donate a dollar to the Obama 2012 campaign? Choose one below.
    a) Yes, I will send in dollar with my tax return.
    b) Yes, but send me a bill next month.
  12. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    08 Aug '10 01:04
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    False premise. Show me one time Obama suggested people stop spending their money.

    Actually, he implemented a variety of programs to encourage people to spend money, like the wildly successful cash for clunkers program and the first time home buyer tax credit (thanks for that BTW).

    So your editorial falls on its face from the get go. ...[text shortened]... o, I fully agree. We should have elected somebody more down to earth and poor, like the McCains.
    Cash for clunkers was state sponsored vandalism, encourages spending innit, like terrorism and war, dolt.

    You Tube - "Disastrous Economic Fallacies - Terror as Stimulus?"

    ...and become educated.
  13. 08 Aug '10 01:05
    http://lauraingraham.com/b/The-do-as-I-say,-not-as-I-do-First-Couple/-221076579949537897.html

    Do as I say, not as I do....WTF
  14. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    08 Aug '10 01:06
    Originally posted by whodey
    True. In fact, Obama wants us to spend much more money than we are doing in the form of taxes for Obamacare, cap and trade, and probably a VAT in the near term. In fact, I am privy to the new tax form for 2010.

    1040 Federal Tax return

    1. Gross income. __________

    2. Multiply above amount by 10% _________

    3. Add line one and line two together. ...[text shortened]... a) Yes, I will send in dollar with my tax return.
    b) Yes, but send me a bill next month.
    Whodey have you heard there will be something like 85 new bureaucracies created as a result of Maobama care, wondering if that were true.
  15. 08 Aug '10 01:08 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by bbarr
    Zing!
    Down to earth I'm not too concerned about. Going on vacation seven or eight times during the summer at tax payer expense, that I'm a bit concerned about. Quit spending our money like it is water on personal trips.

    I'd love to see all expense accounts cut off for all Federal employees. You want to travel, you pay for it. You want to eat, you pay for it. You want some booze, you pay for it. Live like the rest of us.

    If you aren't willing to pay for your travel, then do like military people and hop AF flights when there's extra room on the flight.