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    What would a Republican, who steps up and runs against Trump for the 2020 nomination, run on?
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    @averagejoe1 said
    What would a Republican, who steps up and runs against Trump for the 2020 nomination, run on?
    Not being Trump, for starters.
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    Well unemployment is down.
    Illegal immigration is down.
    African American employment is up.
    Stock market is going through the roof.
    Etc. Etc.
    So a republican running against Trump would say all those good things are due to the republicans winning in 2016 and Trump is the bad part.
    It could work. I doubt it but it could work.
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    @rowin-side said
    Well unemployment is down.
    Illegal immigration is down.
    African American employment is up.
    Stock market is going through the roof.
    Etc. Etc.
    So a republican running against Trump would say all those good things are due to the republicans winning in 2016 and Trump is the bad part.
    It could work. I doubt it but it could work.
    I thought this would be a good discussion, after the rote Capital Punishment and Abortion stuff, maybe a little fresh air. I think because Trump is not liked very much (I never have learned why) that the libs, who comprise 90% of these threads, just do not want to weigh in where Trump's accomplishments will be front-and-center, only a few of which you have cited.

    Guess we can just keep rolling along with the pros of Socialism. Glad I fall in the caste system of the well off, who will ride above the grief of Socialism, but I sure feel sorry for the little folks. They have no idea. And, Has anyone seen the Banana People who are marching in front of Tucker Carlson's house? If you do nothing else, just listen to the way they talk/shriek.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    What would a Republican, who steps up and runs against Trump for the 2020 nomination, run on?
    What would they run on?

    Well let's see: NOT jumping into bed with every porn star and playboy bunny on the planet, NOT paying them hush money to buy their silence, NOT inviting high ranking Russians into the oval office and giving them America's most sensitive intel. NOT lying about Mexico paying for a border wall. NOT firing an FBI director who is investigating them for multiple crimes. NOT raiding one's own charitable foundation to pay for a portrait of themselves. NOT having a record number of my former staffers pleading guilty of multiple felonies.

    Need I go on??
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    @mchill said
    What would they run on?

    Well let's see: NOT jumping into bed with every porn star and playboy bunny on the planet, NOT paying them hush money to buy their silence, NOT inviting high ranking Russians into the oval office and giving them America's most sensitive intel. NOT lying about Mexico paying for a border wall. NOT firing an FBI director who is investigating them for mu ...[text shortened]... aving a record number of my former staffers pleading guilty of multiple felonies.

    Need I go on??
    That's what I said... not being Trump.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    What would a Republican, who steps up and runs against Trump for the 2020 nomination, run on?
    Fiscal sanity and actually building a wall and actually repeal and replace Obamacare.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    What would a Republican, who steps up and runs against Trump for the 2020 nomination, run on?
    It seems that a candidate who could surround himself with non-criminals would be a good start. Perhaps a sensible immigration policy like we will admit people who the US believes would be beneficial to the US instead of treating all members of certain ethnicities as criminals. Maybe someone who at least gives lip service to the idea of wishing to help everyone instead of wasting money on negative symbolic and ineffective gestures like building a wall. It would be nice if the president of the United States could state his/ her point of view without engaging in name calling. In fact I am sort of amazed that Republican aren't lining up to run against him. He has an important job and he's really amazingly terrible at it.
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    @rowin-side said
    Well unemployment is down.
    Illegal immigration is down.
    African American employment is up.
    Stock market is going through the roof.
    Etc. Etc.
    So a republican running against Trump would say all those good things are due to the republicans winning in 2016 and Trump is the bad part.
    It could work. I doubt it but it could work.
    "Well unemployment is down."
    been on a steady decline since Obama

    "Illegal immigration is down."
    been declining from the days of Obama as well. We've been saying that Obama has a dismal record on how he treated immigrants as well.

    "African American employment is up."
    a result of unemployment going down, something that started during Obama and with which trump has little to do with. Also, nobody cares that employment is up if the wages are still pitiful.

    "Stock market is going through the roof."
    It's doing ok. Not through the roof. I t had very high points during Obama years as well, even more impressive considering he inherited a huge depression.
    Second point is that stock market doing great means little for the poor and the (more and more insignificant) middle class. Trickle down economics is a scam and believing it works after almost 30 years of obviously not working proves one's stupidity and ignorance.

    "So a republican running against Trump would say all those good things are due to the republicans winning in 2016 and Trump is the bad part."
    No, he will say he is a disgrace and making the US the laughing stock of the world and also he will point to the fact that he promised he won't cut social security and medicare which he now attempts to do. That republican would also point to the failure of Trump to repeal Obamacare and to give every american a "beautiful, tremendous healthcare", a promise which again he broke. That republican would also point to the lie that "Mexico is going to pay for the wall".
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    I wonder where white supremacists' obsession with "black" employment comes from. Is "black" unemployment any worse or better than other unemployment? Do they think their and Trump's racism is diminished through reductions in "black" unemployment?
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    @mchill said
    What would they run on?

    Well let's see: NOT jumping into bed with every porn star and playboy bunny on the planet, NOT paying them hush money to buy their silence, NOT inviting high ranking Russians into the oval office and giving them America's most sensitive intel. NOT lying about Mexico paying for a border wall. NOT firing an FBI director who is investigating them for mu ...[text shortened]... aving a record number of my former staffers pleading guilty of multiple felonies.

    Need I go on??
    FDR, JFK, RK, LBJ, Clinton(rapist) and Trump all had their dalliances. First 5 are dems. This has been pretty much overly debated. Hush money would not be irregular under the circumstances, his money, his business. Do you know the whole thing about the Russia oval visit, the whys, the whos, the what, were you there? Do you truly think the American people should know about secret meetings had by a President with goals of the USA in mind? Maybe he 'traded' in info? Your man Obama, though quite UN-transparent, told the enemies in the East what our timetable was!!!

    No 'lie' bout the Wall, the guy loses sleep over it, he is big about keeping his promises. Surely you hear the news, he is in the throes of the Wall. Don't get you there. Whatever on the the other stuff, and though he ended up with crooks on this staff, that was just a vetting problem. He did not know, and there is nothing on the Donald. He won't make that mistake again.

    So, yes, you need to go on. Why do you people never mention his accomplishments? One idiot here actually finds something negative to say about the stock market, for God sake. I think he figures some people are not in it, so it does them no good! The boats in the economy are floating high, jobs created, money getting made, whether John Q Citizen owns stock or not. I bet John Q owns a cell phone. You can buy 2 shares of Boeing with the cost of that cell phone.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    What would a Republican, who steps up and runs against Trump for the 2020 nomination, run on?
    Having a Heart
    Brain
    Compasion
    Personality
    I rest my case.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    What would a Republican, who steps up and runs against Trump for the 2020 nomination, run on?
    Southern border wall?
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    @averagejoe1 said
    What would a Republican, who steps up and runs against Trump for the 2020 nomination, run on?
    First: Fiscal responsibility. The stock market, the gain in employment (always a suspect indicator) and the 'roaring' economy are predictable results of a one time infusion of tax monies into the economy. Equally predictable is the explosion in the federal deficit. Short term gains and longer term problems. All empires spent themselves to death.
    Second and at least equally important: International relations.
    For three quarters of a century the leadership of the United States internationally was a given. There were opponents of course but there were allies who lined up voluntarily. In two years this incompetent on the international stage has undermined relations with the friends of the United States. How do you think that'll work out?
    So go ahead and enjoy your stock market gains. The United States seems tired, perhaps exhausted. to me; electing this incompetent just an obvious symptom of
    a failing leadership.
    2020 looms large
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    @stevemcc said
    First: Fiscal responsibility. The stock market, the gain in employment
    So go ahead and enjoy your stock market gains. The United States seems tired, perhaps exhausted. to me; electing this incompetent just an obvious symptom of
    a failing leadership.
    2020 looms large
    2020 looms large, indeed.... A major election for our lifetime. I feel Trump wins (Carville once said Its the Economy stupid, as u allude to above), but the Big result will be how many of y’all vote for Socialism. Gotta go, loading up on Boeing, it is bouncing back quicker than expected!! Bought yesterday luckily.
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