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  1. 06 Jun '09 15:05
    http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13799231

    The president must make the most of a surge of goodwill towards him from Muslims and Arabs

    BARACK OBAMA’S biggest bonus on his first presidential trip to Arab parts of the Middle East was not being George Bush. Many Arabs in the region, as well as Turks and Persians, are rightly ready to give him a chance to restore his country’s tattered reputation. So his honeyed words, delivered from a font of Islamic learning in Cairo, will have helped him, at least a bit, in that arduous task. But they will not have drawn all the poison of the past eight years, when many of the world’s 1.4 billion Muslims came to believe, erroneously if understandably, that America was their enemy. Mr Obama’s ringing oratory, which drew waves of applause and a rousing ovation, will soon be forgotten unless it is followed by deeds.

    Mr Obama rightly eschews Mr Bush’s crudely Manichaean simplifications of the “war on terror”. But he makes it admirably plain that he is no less determined to fend off the still rising tide of Muslim jihadism, to contain the Taliban, and to beat back al-Qaeda, which most Arabs and Muslims abhor. He knows he can do this only with the co-operation of Muslims across the world. If they accept the sincerity of his protestations of good faith in Cairo, he should get more help from them than his hapless predecessor did. America sorely needs it. And Mr Obama deserves it.



    So I guess Obama is doing just fine, this time he didn't blame it all on Bush or America, which is good. Any comments on his engagement with the Muslim world?
  2. 06 Jun '09 15:15
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13799231

    [b]The president must make the most of a surge of goodwill towards him from Muslims and Arabs


    BARACK OBAMA’S biggest bonus on his first presidential trip to Arab parts of the Middle East was not being George Bush. Many Arabs in the region, as well as Turks and Persians, are r ...[text shortened]... it all on Bush or America, which is good. Any comments on his engagement with the Muslim world?[/b]
    History will repeat itself. Obama is just another in a long line of power grabbers spewing out the same old crap.

    In the end there will be war, and it will be the children who suffer the most.
  3. 06 Jun '09 15:30
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13799231

    [b]The president must make the most of a surge of goodwill towards him from Muslims and Arabs


    BARACK OBAMA’S biggest bonus on his first presidential trip to Arab parts of the Middle East was not being George Bush. Many Arabs in the region, as well as Turks and Persians, are r ...[text shortened]... it all on Bush or America, which is good. Any comments on his engagement with the Muslim world?[/b]
    The guy's ok. He's better than his predecessor.
  4. 06 Jun '09 16:28
    Originally posted by josephw
    History will repeat itself. Obama is just another in a long line of power grabbers spewing out the same old crap.

    In the end there will be war, and it will be the children who suffer the most.
    that is such an up-lifting post.
  5. 06 Jun '09 16:29
    Originally posted by scherzo
    The guy's ok. He's better than his predecessor.
    I thought you disliked his centrism.
  6. 06 Jun '09 17:40 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    So I guess Obama is doing just fine, this time he didn't blame it all on Bush or America, which is good. Any comments on his engagement with the Muslim world?[/b]
    What do you mean? We all know that it was Bush who sparked 911 and the Iranians taking the hostages in the 70's, and the insane hatred of the Zionist state that began long before they ever had a state to begin with back in the 1920's and 30's. What's wrong with you man?
  7. 06 Jun '09 18:18
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    I thought you disliked his centrism.
    Which is why I said "ok" and not "great" or even "good."