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  1. 10 Sep '13 20:43 / 1 edit
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/09/obama-rogue-state-tramples-every-law

    "Obama's rogue state tramples every law it demands others uphold"
    --George Monbiot (9 September 2013)

    "Eighty-three times the US has exercised its veto (in the UN Security
    Council). On 42 of these occasions it has done so to prevent Israel's
    treatment of the Palestinians being censured. On the last occasion
    130 nations supported the resolution but Barack Obama spiked it. ...
    But now, as the veto powers of two permanent members (Russia and
    China) obstruct its (US) attempt to pour petrol on another Middle Eastern
    fire, the US suddenly decides that the system is illegitimate. ...
    In 1997 the US agreed to decommission the 31,000 tonnes of sarin, VX,
    mustard gas and other agents it possessed within ten years. In 2007 it
    requested the maximum extension of the deadline permitted by the
    Chemical Weapons Convention--five years. Again it (USA) failed to keep
    its promise, and in 2012 it promised they would be gone by 2021."
    --George Monbiot

    US foreign and military policies have long been extremely dishonest and
    hypocritical. But many, if not most, Americans seem so thoroughly
    'brainwashed' by US nationalistic propaganda that they reflexively tend
    to support any US policy that appears to increase US power anywhere.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/10/silent-military-coup-took-over-washington

    "The silent military coup that took over Washington"
    --John Pilger (10 September 2013)

    "The historian Norman Pollack calls this (what's happened in the USA)
    'liberal fascism'. 'For goose-steppers substitute the seemingly more
    innocuous militarisation of the (US) total culture. And for the bombastic
    leader, we have the reformer manque (Barack Obama), blithely at work,
    planning and executing assassination, smiling all the while.' Every Tuesday
    the 'humanitarian' Obama personally oversees a worldwide terror network
    of drones that 'bugsplat' people, their rescuers and mourners. In the
    west's comfort zones, the first black leader (Obama) of the land of slavery
    (USA) still feels good, as if his very existence represents a social advance,
    regardless of his trail of blood. *This obeisance to a symbol has all but
    destroyed the US anti-war movement--Obama's singular achievement.*"
    --John Pilger

    When some extremely naive liberal European acquaintances of mine actually
    celebrated Barack Obama's being (wrongly) given the Nobel Peace Prize,
    I told them to expect to see Obama become about as transparently (even
    to people wearing rose-coloured glasses) a ruthless militaristic leader as
    any US President ever has been.
  2. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    11 Sep '13 16:47
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/09/obama-rogue-state-tramples-every-law

    "Obama's rogue state tramples every law it demands others uphold"
    --George Monbiot (9 September 2013)

    "Eighty-three times the US has exercised its veto (in the UN Security
    Council). On 42 of these occasions it has done so to prevent Israel's
    treatment of th ...[text shortened]... sses) a ruthless militaristic leader as
    any US President ever has been.
    So, what's your solution? bring back George W Bush? Oh, by the way...have they found those "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq yet??)
  3. 12 Sep '13 01:57
    Originally posted by bill718
    So, what's your solution? bring back George W Bush? Oh, by the way...have they found those "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq yet??)
    I have presented my solution in the Liberty Amendemnts thread.

    I don't much blame people throwing their weight and power around, everyone does it. The problem is that the US federal government has more than other countries. They print money out their arse and throw it at everyone on the planet and have troops in over 70 countries around the world.

    What needs to be done is repeal Constitutional Amendments created by the progressive movement at the turn of the 20th century. The only way to do this peacefully is to get 2/3 of the states to agree to it.

    At least you seem to acknowledge that the answer is not through the two party system, rather, it is to limit the scope and power of the federal government. The Founders feared that the Federal government would become what it has, that is why there is a provision in Article V for the states to do something about it.
  4. 13 Sep '13 23:49 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by bill718
    So, what's your solution? bring back George W Bush? Oh, by the way...have they found those "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq yet??)
    no but they found plenty of American oil under the Iraqi sand, how it got there no one knows!
  5. 15 Sep '13 23:23
    Originally posted by bill718
    So, what's your solution? bring back George W Bush? Oh, by the way...have they found those "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq yet??)
    Only an extremely narrow-minded politically partisan American could
    (wrongly) assume that, when I criticize US President Obama, a Democrat,
    I therefore must be expressing support for the Republican Party.
    The political spectrum's not a US Democratic/Republican Party binary.
  6. 15 Sep '13 23:36
    Barack Obama:
    But...but...but....muh culture...muh heritage......
  7. 16 Sep '13 00:19
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Only an extremely narrow-minded politically partisan American could
    (wrongly) assume that, when I criticize US President Obama, a Democrat,
    I therefore must be expressing support for the Republican Party.
    The political spectrum's not a US Democratic/Republican Party binary.
    First I want to thank Duchess for her sage comments. As a U.S. citizen, I feel the root of our problem is the extreme influence of mega corporate wealth at both the state and federal level. Both the GOP and the Dems have accepted huge sums from major corporations. Without mega amounts of money, it is impossible for a third party to run a viable campaign in the US. I doubt it will ever happen. Given our military power, the corporate control of US politics could be a very dangerous situation for the entire world should we become a democracy in name only.