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  1. Zugzwang
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    07 Apr '15 21:48
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Forget it. You're an a**hole. This whole post is just a bunch of moronic lies from a temperamental idiot incapable of making any type of rational argument.

    GFY.

    EDIT: I should know better than responding to your posts; you do this type of BS in every single thread you are in. Grow up.
    Dishonest and offensive as usual, No1Marauder (who has been putting his
    words into my mouth) keeps flagrantly lying and personally attacking me.
  2. Zugzwang
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    08 Apr '15 20:191 edit
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    It doesn't matter IF [b]on average Chinese workers work harder than white Americans or not. IF you make individualized decisions based on generalized stereotypes, you are illegally discriminating.

    You are being disingenuous and dishonest. On the one hand, you keep claiming that Mr. Amine's experiences with American and Chinese employees is someho ...[text shortened]... lief that just being part of said group made them better workers, I'd recommend his termination.[/b]
    "...I'd tell him (a supervisor) to worry about what individual workers were
    doing rather than their ethnicity."
    --No1Marauder

    No1Marauder apparently takes the position here that all workers should be
    assessed as individuals with no attempt (such as by collecting statistics)
    being made to classify them according to ethnicity/race/nationality etc.
    No1Marauder seems to reject the notion of making any generalizations
    based on classifying workers according to ethnicity/race/nationality etc.
    Treat everyone as an individual, never as a member of a larger group.

    That sounds like arguments used by right-wing Americans opposing affirmative action.
    They have argued, for instance, that a black student who's applying for
    admission to a university should be considered only as an individual.
    No attempt should be made to collect statistics showing that black students
    on average have lower test scores and come from lower income families than
    white students. And even if such statistics have been collected, they
    should be completely ignored because it's wrong to consider a student as
    part of a group rather than as just an individual. No generalization should
    be made about the lower test scores or lower family incomes of black students.
    And, of course, no 'affirmative action' aid should be given to the black student.

    So what No1Marauder wrote seems not inconsistent with these arguments
    against affirmative action. If I recall correctly, however, No1Marauder has
    supported affirmative action and criticized right-wing Americans who oppose it.
    So perhaps No1Marauder does take groups' average performances into account
    when it suits his political opinions.
  3. Standard memberbill718
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    10 Apr '15 05:02
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Some right-wing white American men here have been evidently arguing
    that everyone gets paid exactly according to what's one worth in terms of
    productivity under American capitalism. So if white American men get paid
    the most, then that's only because their job performances are the best.

    In _The Powerhouse_ (2015), Steven Levine discusses the efforts ...[text shortened]... pability."
    --Khalil Amine

    Is there anything wrong with Khalil Amine's employment practices?
    Normally I would agree with you, but because you've acted in an anti social manner to me, and many others here, I say you're wrong! 😏
  4. Zugzwang
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    10 Apr '15 18:562 edits
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    "...I'd tell him (a supervisor) to worry about what individual workers were
    doing rather than their ethnicity."
    --No1Marauder

    No1Marauder apparently takes the position here that all workers should be
    assessed as individuals with no attempt (such as by collecting statistics)
    being made to classify them according to ethnicity/race/nationality etc.
    ...[text shortened]... auder does take groups' average performances into account
    when it suits his political opinions.
    "The invention of cellphone cameras was a tough break for Southern white police officers."
    --No1Marauder (9 April 2015)

    Given that he has just emphasized treating everyone as an individual rather
    than as members of a group, why did No1Marauder make that stereotypical
    statement about 'Southern white police officers'?

    Shouldn't the statement be "...a tough break for police officers who break
    the law and abuse their powers"?

    Why, apart from his hypocrisy, does No1Marauder like to make stereotypical
    comments about groups of people when it suits his political agenda?
  5. Zugzwang
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    10 Apr '15 19:05
    Originally posted by bill718
    Normally I would agree with you, but because you've acted in an anti social manner to me, and many others here, I say you're wrong! 😏
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
  6. Garner, NC
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    10 Apr '15 22:171 edit
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    "The invention of cellphone cameras was a tough break for Southern white police officers."
    --No1Marauder (9 April 2015)

    Given that he has just emphasized treating everyone as an individual rather
    than as members of a group, why did No1Marauder make that stereotypical
    statement about 'Southern white police officers'?

    Shouldn't the statement be ".. ...[text shortened]... like to make stereotypical
    comments about groups of people when it suits his political agenda?
    I must say, it's refreshing to see someone other than an American Conservative notice the hypocrisy in such a statement.
  7. Zugzwang
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    17 Apr '15 23:071 edit
    Originally posted by techsouth to Duchss64 about No1Marauder's statement
    I must say, it's refreshing to see someone other than an American Conservative notice the hypocrisy in such a statement.
    I call them as I see them. Even though some of my political opinions might
    be closer to No1Marauder's than to TechSouth's, I know that No1Marauder
    often is extremely dishonest and hypocritical in his arguments. And when
    No1Marauder begins losing, he tends to claim victory and resort to personal abuse.
  8. The Catbird's Seat
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    17 Apr '15 23:27
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    And when No1Marauder begins losing, he tends to claim victory and resort to personal abuse.
    Kind of like your tactics. Only you start right out with the abuse and stereotypes.
  9. wherever I am needed
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    17 Apr '15 23:392 edits
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    And when
    No1Marauder begins losing, he tends to claim victory and resort to personal abuse.
    I think that probably applies to 99.9% of the posters on here!

    Just you and I are different
  10. Zugzwang
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    18 Apr '15 00:15
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Kind of like your tactics. Only you start right out with the abuse and stereotypes.
    Birds of a (dishonest) feather flock together. It's amusing to see this
    trolling alliance (which pops up from time to time) between Normbenign
    and No1Marauder, two writers who have long records of accusing each
    other of hypocrisy and lying.
  11. Zugzwang
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    18 Apr '15 00:181 edit
    Originally posted by st dominics preview
    I think that probably applies to 99.9% of the posters on here!
    Just you and I are different
    I think "99.9%" is an exaggeration. If that were true, it would mean
    that only one writer in 1000 was an exception. And there are far fewer
    than 1000 writers here and there are more than only one exception.
  12. wherever I am needed
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    18 Apr '15 00:23
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    I think "99.9%" is an exaggeration. If that were true, it would mean
    that only one writer in 1000 was an exception. And there are far fewer
    than 1000 writers here and there are more than only one exception.
    nice stats

    i agree

    99% then?
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