Originally posted by no1marauder to Quackquack
It is odd that Thanksgiving would now be considered a "nonreligious" holiday; the Pilgrims and Puritans certainly wouldn't have thought that. In addition, most Presidential proclamations declaring a "day of national thanksgiving" usually explicitly referred to religion as in Abraham Lincoln's 1863 one:
October 3, 1863
...[text shortened]... terpretation of the holiday itself as celebrating genocide is a bit histrionic to say the least.
"...the tradtional story of the first Thanksgiving in the US .. is an almost complete fabrication."
My point is that traditional stories ('feel good' ) about the relations between white settlers
and natives tend to obscure, minimize, or excuse the essential racism in their relations.
"The only good Indian is a dead Indian."
--attributed to Philip Sheridan (who denied saying it)
"I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe
nine out of every ten are. And I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth."
--Theodore Roosevelt (1886)
"It seems an interpretation of the holiday itself as celebrating genocide is a bit histrionic .."
Although some trolls may like to put those words into my mouth, I never wrote that.
My position is *not* that 'Thanksgiving celebrates genocide'. My position is that it's
a holiday celebration that blithely ignores or obscures the tragic fate of native peoples.
There's a difference between celebrating an atrocity and blithely ignoring its victims.
I believe that few white Americans today (in contrast to the many who did in the 19th century)
would actually *celebrate* the genocide of 'Indians'. But few white Americans today
have the moral honesty to face all the racism in US history, including the genocide of 'Indians'.
Many Americans apparently prefer to embrace a 'whitewashed' version of history in which
America was entirely built by white settlers bringing their Christian civilization and racial superiority.