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  1. Zugzwang
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    04 Aug '17 02:20
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/03/trump-transcripts-australia-mexico-narcissism

    "Leaked Trump transcripts show his incoherent, ill-informed narcissism"

    "The transcripts of his conversations with Enrique Peña Nieto and Malcolm Turnbull
    show the president to be no more coherent in private than he is public: ill-informed –
    even about a major attack on US soil – and narcissistic to the point of absurdity."

    "“I am the world’s greatest person,” he tells Turnbull, and boasts to his fellow
    world leaders about the size of the crowds who turn out to hear him speak.
    Maintaining his image as a strong leader in the eyes of his supporters emerges,
    again and again in the course of the conversations, as an overarching priority –
    over and above the maintenance of strong relations with allied countries.

    The transcripts serve as a reminder that being “nice” to Trump counts for more
    than long-term strategic alliances. At one point in his castigation of Turnbull,
    he compared him unfavourably with Vladimir Putin, with whom Trump had recently spoken.

    “Putin was a pleasant call. This is ridiculous,” Trump said shortly before
    ending the call abruptly. In private as in public, Trump’s praise for the
    Russian president is an unshakeable constant."

    "As has happened repeatedly over the course of the administration, the
    emergence of the facts has upheld the news reports, and shown the denials
    to be fake. Trump repeatedly tries to coach Peña Nieto on how to mislead the
    press, urging him to stop repeating Mexico’s refusal to pay for Trump’s proposed border wall."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/03/white-house-leaks-transcripts-donald-trump-pena-nieto-malculm-turnbull

    "Two-faced Trump: the president says one thing in public, another in private."

    It was obvious long ago that Donald Trump's a shameless pathological liar.
  2. Behind the scenes
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    04 Aug '17 03:22
    It was obvious long ago that Donald Trump's a shameless pathological liar.



    Duchess - I agree, and would add your posts contain a great deal of logic and common sense (when you're not using the white man as your verbal chew toy, that is...)
  3. Zugzwang
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    04 Aug '17 18:212 edits
    Originally posted by @mchill
    It was obvious long ago that Donald Trump's a shameless pathological liar.

    Duchess - I agree, and would add your posts contain a great deal of logic and common sense
    (when you're not using the white man as your verbal chew toy, that is...)
    For the record, the racist troll Mchill wrote nice comments about Donald Trump several times
    during the 2016 campaign. And, earlier in 2017, Mchill declared that he would give
    President Trump 'a year', presumably without criticizing him, to implement his agenda.

    So it was *not* that 'obvious long ago' to Mchill that Donald Trump would be a horrible US President.
    Now Mchill has changed his opinion, but he should not pretend that he always held it.
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    04 Aug '17 22:30
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    "Leaked Trump transcripts show his incoherent, ill-informed narcissism"
    Yawn - as if this is news. You're pathetically dim-witted if you need the Grauniad to tell you something that obvious.
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    04 Aug '17 23:01
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/03/trump-transcripts-australia-mexico-narcissism

    "Leaked Trump transcripts show his incoherent, ill-informed narcissism"

    "The transcripts of his conversations with Enrique Peña Nieto and Malcolm Turnbull
    show the president to be no more coherent in private than he is public: ill-informed –
    even about ...[text shortened]... ther in private."

    It was obvious long ago that Donald Trump's a shameless pathological liar.
    Wow, he really is a politician.

    Who knew? 😲
  6. Zugzwang
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    04 Aug '17 23:56
    Originally posted by @shallow-blue
    Yawn - as if this is news. You're pathetically dim-witted if you need the Grauniad to tell you something that obvious.
    The troll Shallow Blue hurls insults in addition to his lies elsewhere to attack me personally.
  7. Zugzwang
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    04 Aug '17 23:58
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Wow, he really is a politician.
    Who knew? 😲
    Donald Trump already has shown that he's a more prolific liar than every other US President, including Nixon.
  8. Behind the scenes
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    05 Aug '17 00:32
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/03/trump-transcripts-australia-mexico-narcissism

    "Leaked Trump transcripts show his incoherent, ill-informed narcissism"

    "The transcripts of his conversations with Enrique Peña Nieto and Malcolm Turnbull
    show the president to be no more coherent in private than he is public: ill-informed –
    even about ...[text shortened]... ther in private."

    It was obvious long ago that Donald Trump's a shameless pathological liar.
    "“I am the world’s greatest person,” he tells Turnbull, and boasts to his fellow
    world leaders about the size of the crowds who turn out to hear him speak.


    That's not true Duchess. YOU are the world's greatest person! 😲
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    05 Aug '17 00:58
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Donald Trump already has shown that he's a more prolific liar than every other US President, including Nixon.
    Well, not everyone is going to measure up to the same standard as to that honest Barak Obama.
  10. Subscriberlemondrop
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    05 Aug '17 02:15
    I'd like to know
    since when did mean and ignorant become acceptable qualities in a U.S. president
    is this the new norm?
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    05 Aug '17 04:20
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Well, not everyone is going to measure up to the same standard as to that honest Barak Obama.
    Or killary
  12. Germany
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    05 Aug '17 08:00
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Well, not everyone is going to measure up to the same standard as to that honest Barak Obama.
    If you would have to rate them by honesty, would you rate Donald Trump higher than Barack Obama?
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    05 Aug '17 09:06
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    The troll
    ...
    attack me personally.
    Your hypocrisy is staggering.
  14. Standard memberfinnegan
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    05 Aug '17 09:241 edit
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/03/trump-transcripts-australia-mexico-narcissism

    "Leaked Trump transcripts show his incoherent, ill-informed narcissism"

    "The transcripts of his conversations with Enrique Peña Nieto and Malcolm Turnbull
    show the president to be no more coherent in private than he is public: ill-informed –
    even about ...[text shortened]... ther in private."

    It was obvious long ago that Donald Trump's a shameless pathological liar.
    It was obvious long ago that Donald Trump's a shameless pathological liar.


    Yes it was obvious long ago, before he even entered politics, so exposing it is no longer news, though worth repeating all the same.

    What is now open for discussion is the vulnerability of American (US) voters to such politicians and their utter lack of defences against the increasingly blatant, in your face corruption of their political process. Quite frankly, what we are watching is a feeding frenzy on the far right as various competing, unnattractive oligarchs, vested interests and their paid public servants carve up the political sphere against the public interest, while their idiot voters stare wide eyed at a reflection of their own buttocks.
  15. Zugzwang
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    05 Aug '17 18:141 edit
    Originally posted by @mchill
    "“I am the world’s greatest person,” he tells Turnbull, and boasts to his fellow
    world leaders about the size of the crowds who turn out to hear him speak.

    That's not true Duchess. YOU are the world's greatest person! 😲
    Donald Trump presumably does not know of my existence.
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