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  1. 01 May '10 22:53
  2. 01 May '10 23:15
    A church ,Synagogue ,Mosque , sacred places ,respectul place's .
    A war memorial in the heart of England , soldiers died fighting for the right to live peacefull .free lifes. Sacred place's ?
    Not this Britain ,this Britain which stood alone fighting fascism while the world looked on !!!!
    A war memorial is descicrated by a paint spraying Muslim ..."Islam will dominate the world "-Obama is on his way" and "Kill Gordan Brown "
    Rascist ,Religious motivated crime ?
    Not in Britain .
    He was charged with the minor crime of criminal damage !!!!
  3. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    02 May '10 00:43
    If you'd wanted to discuss this seriously you'd have provided a link.
  4. 02 May '10 03:02
    not much you can do about crazy people, given the laws preventing mandatory treatment (at least in the U.S.).
  5. Standard member yo its me
    watch the acid...
    02 May '10 08:29 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by phil3000
    A church ,Synagogue ,Mosque , sacred places ,respectul place's .
    A war memorial in the heart of England , soldiers died fighting for the right to live peacefull .free lifes. Sacred place's ?
    Not this Britain ,this Britain which stood alone fighting fascism while the world looked on !!!!
    A war memorial is descicrated by a paint spraying Muslim ..."Isla d crime ?
    Not in Britain .
    He was charged with the minor crime of criminal damage !!!!
    That's becasue, thankfully, speach is free here.

    Is it this one in Perth?
    http://www.defence.gov.au/news/raafnews/editions/4717/international/international01.htm
    "Two teenage girls have been charged with damage to property. The 17-year-old will appear in the Youth Justice Division while the 18-year-old will appear in the Launceston Magistrates Court."
  6. 02 May '10 08:35
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    not much you can do about crazy people, given the laws preventing mandatory treatment (at least in the U.S.).
    Really? Not here. They call it TBS, it's been heavily criticized, but it's somewhat more effective than a normal prison sentence. Since you love Wikipedia, here's a link.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_commitment#Netherlands

    TBS would never be given for vandalizing a monument, though.
  7. 02 May '10 08:45
    Originally posted by yo its me
    That's becasue, thankfully, speach is free here.
    Every one has the right to free speach in Britain.
    But to defile a war memorial is not part of our free speach laws!!
    He was made to pay £500 to have the mess cleaned off and fined £85 costs.
    He was charged with criminal damage !!
    Why wasn't he charged with racially or religiously motivated crimes?
    " Islam will dominate the world-Osama is on his way" and "Kill Gordan Brown " Sprayed over a war memorial ..if that's not racial and religiously motivated what is ??
    What does that verdict tell other hate filled Muslims in our midst ??
  8. 02 May '10 08:48
    Originally posted by phil3000
    Every one has the right to free speach in Britain.
    But to defile a war memorial is not part of our free speach laws!!
    He was made to pay £500 to have the mess cleaned off and fined £85 costs.
    He was charged with criminal damage !!
    Why wasn't he charged with racially or religiously motivated crimes?
    " Islam will dominate the world-Osama is on his way" a ...[text shortened]... tivated what is ??
    What does that verdict tell other hate filled Muslims in our midst ??
    It would seem like adolescent rebellious behaviour to me.
  9. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    02 May '10 08:50
    Originally posted by phil3000
    Every one has the right to free speach in Britain.
    But to defile a war memorial is not part of our free speach laws!!
    He was made to pay £500 to have the mess cleaned off and fined £85 costs.
    He was charged with criminal damage !!
    Why wasn't he charged with racially or religiously motivated crimes?
    " Islam will dominate the world-Osama is on his way" a ...[text shortened]... tivated what is ??
    What does that verdict tell other hate filled Muslims in our midst ??
    What does that verdict tell other hate filled Muslims in our midst ??

    That we are a liberal society that will not overreact to spray paint.
  10. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    02 May '10 08:51
    Originally posted by phil3000
    Every one has the right to free speach in Britain.
    But to defile a war memorial is not part of our free speach laws!!
    He was made to pay £500 to have the mess cleaned off and fined £85 costs.
    He was charged with criminal damage !!
    I suppose the point is, you get nicked and charged for the criminal damage you do, not your opinions, ideology or motivations. The distinction is important regardless of how we feel about the reasons for the crime.
  11. 02 May '10 08:54
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    It would seem like adolescent rebellious behaviour to me.
    He was 21 yr's old .
    I think he knew damn well what he was doing !!!
    He would give no explanation why he did this and showed no remorse .
  12. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    02 May '10 08:55 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by phil3000
    He would give no explanation why he did this and showed no remorse .
    Then he needed to be charged with criminal damage in accordance with the law.

    What do you suggest he be charged with?
  13. 02 May '10 09:00
    Originally posted by phil3000
    He was 21 yr's old .
    I think he knew damn well what he was doing !!!
    He would give no explanation why he did this and showed no remorse .
    Yes, he was hoping to make the papers. Apparently, he succeeded. I think your kind of response is exactly the kind of response he was hoping for.
  14. 02 May '10 09:11
    Originally posted by FMF
    Then he needed to be charged with criminal damage in accordance with the law.
    "Islam will dominate the world " and "Obama is on his way "
    and " kill Gordon Brown " sprayed over a war memorial !!!
    Let's have a closer look at this .....Islam , Dominate ,Obama and Kill the prime minister !!!! British war memorial !!!!
    Criminal damage, not any hint of racial or religous motivation ?
    Ah well !! ,,I suppose he has learn't his lesson and will not do anything un -toward ever again
  15. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    02 May '10 09:13 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by phil3000
    "Islam will dominate the world " and "Obama is on his way "
    and " kill Gordon Brown " sprayed over a war memorial !!!
    Let's have a closer look at this .....Islam , Dominate ,Obama and Kill the prime minister !!!! British war memorial !!!!
    Criminal damage, not any hint of racial or religious motivation ?
    Ah well !! ,,I suppose he has learn't his lesson and will not do anything un -toward ever again
    What punishment do you suggest for his racial or religious motivations?