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  1. 09 Sep '16 14:22
    An interview with Nikola Tesla by John B. Kennedy, January 30, 1926

    Mr. Tesla regards the emergence of woman as one of the most profound portents for the future.

    "It is clear to any trained observer," he says, "and even to the sociologically untrained, that a new attitude toward sex discrimination has come over the world through the centuries, receiving an abrupt stimulus just before and after the World War.

    "This struggle of the human female toward sex equality will end in a new sex order, with the female as superior. The modern woman, who anticipates in merely superficial phenomena the advancement of her sex, is but a surface symptom of something deeper and more potent fermenting in the bosom of the race.

    "It is not in the shallow physical imitation of men that women will assert first their equality and later their superiority, but in the awakening of the intellect of women.

    "Through countless generations, from the very beginning, the social subservience of women resulted naturally in the partial atrophy or at least the hereditary suspension of mental qualities which we now know the female sex to be endowed with no less than men.

    The Queen is the Center of Life

    "BUT the female mind has demonstrated a capacity for all the mental acquirements and achievements of men, and as generations ensue that capacity will be expanded; the average woman will be as well educated as the average man, and then better educated, for the dormant faculties of her brain will be stimulated to an activity that will be all the more intense and powerful because of centuries of repose. Woman will ignore precedent and startle civilization with their progress.

    "The acquisition of new fields of endeavor by women, their gradual usurpation of leadership, will dull and finally dissipate feminine sensibilities, will choke the maternal instinct, so that marriage and motherhood may become abhorrent and human civilization draw closer and closer to the perfect civilization of the bee."

    The significance of this lies in the principle dominating the economy of the bee--the most highly organized and intelligently coordinated system of any form of nonrational animal life--the all-governing supremacy of the instinct for immortality which makes divinity out of motherhood.

    The center of all bee life is the queen. She dominates the hive, not through hereditary right, for any egg may be hatched into a reigning queen, but because she is the womb of this insect race.

    We Can Only Sit and Wonder

    THERE are the vast, desexualized armies of workers whose sole aim and happiness in life is hard work. It is the perfection of communism, of socialized, cooperative life wherein all things, including the young, are the property and concern of all.

    Then there are the virgin bees, the princess bees, the females which are selected from the eggs of the queen when they are hatched and preserved in case an unfruitful queen should bring disappointment to the hive. And there are the male bees, few in number, unclean of habit, tolerated only because they are necessary to mate with the queen.

    When the time is ripe for the queen to take her nuptial flight the male bees are drilled and regimented. The queen passes the drones which guard the gate of the hive, and the male bees follow her in rustling array. Strongest of all the inhabitants of the hive, more powerful than any of her subjects, the queen launches into the air, spiraling upward and upward, the male bees following. Some of the pursuers weaken and fail, drop out of the nuptial chase, but the queen wings higher and higher until a point is reached in the far ether where but one of the male bees remains. By the inflexible law of natural selection he is the strongest, and he mates with the queen. At the moment of marriage his body splits asunder and he perishes.

    The queen returns to the hive, impregnated, carrying with her tens of thousands of eggs--a future city of bees, and then begins the cycle of reproduction, the concentration of the teeming life of the hive in unceasing work for the birth of a new generation.

    Imagination falters at the prospect of human analogy to this mysterious and superbly dedicated civilization of the bee; but when we consider how the human instinct for race perpetuation dominates life in its normal and exaggerated and perverse manifestations, there is ironic justice in the possibility that this instinct, with the continuing intellectual advance of women, may be finally expressed after the manner of the bee, though it will take centuries to break down the habits and customs of peoples that bar the way to such a simiply and scientifically ordered civilization.

    We have seen a beginning of this in the United States. In Wisconsin the sterilization of confirmed criminals and pre-marriage examination of males is required by law, while the doctrine of eugenics is now boldly preached where a few decades ago its advocacy was a statutory offense.

    Old men have dreamed dreams and young men have seen visions from the beginning of time. We of today can only sit and wonder when a scientist has his say.

    Are we already seeing the fulfilment of this?

    1. We have more women entering Universities than males.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2016/07/15/almost-100000-more-women-than-men-applied-to-uk-universities-thi/

    2, Women at the head of some on the most powerful countries in the world including the UK, Germany, Scotland, New Zealand, Croatia and perhaps even America.
  2. 09 Sep '16 14:26
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    An interview with Nikola Tesla by John B. Kennedy, January 30, 1926

    Mr. Tesla regards the emergence of woman as one of the most profound portents for the future.

    "It is clear to any trained observer," he says, "and even to the sociologically untrained, that a new attitude toward sex discrimination has come over the world through the centurie ...[text shortened]... in the world including the UK, Germany, Scotland, New Zealand, Croatia and perhaps even America.
    Women are increasing in power?

    Have you seen how Islam is spreading Robbie?

    Soon all women across the world will return to their status hundreds of years ago all around the world. In fact, they will have less rights.
  3. 09 Sep '16 14:36 / 4 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    Women are increasing in power?

    Have you seen how Islam is spreading Robbie?

    Soon all women across the world will return to their status hundreds of years ago all around the world. In fact, they will have less rights.
    I don't believe it, the empirical evidence is there, more women in universities than men and more women in power than ever before. Islam cannot stop this. Had Mrs Bhutto not been so naive Pakistan one of the largest Muslims countries in the world may this day of had a lady leader instead of the fat little corrupt Nawaz Sharif. She was of course prime minister in 1988-90 and in 1993-96. Bangladesh did have a lady leader and so did India which has a huge Muslim population of about 140 million. Had Indira Gandhi not made the suicidal mistake of entering the Golden Temple with troops her legacy might have been longer.
  4. 09 Sep '16 14:49
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I don't believe it, the empirical evidence is there, more women in universities than men and more women in power than ever before. Islam cannot stop this. Had Mrs Bhutto not been so naive Pakistan one of the largest Muslims countries in the world may this day of had a lady leader instead of the fat little corrupt Nawaz Sharif. She was of course prim ...[text shortened]... he suicidal mistake of entering the Golden Temple with troops her legacy might have been longer.
    Where is the evidence that women are increasing in power in Islamic countries?

    Link?
  5. Standard member vivify
    rain
    09 Sep '16 14:51
    "...the bosom of the race"

    Classy pun right there.
  6. 09 Sep '16 14:55 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Where is the evidence that women are increasing in power in Islamic countries?

    Link?
    First of all the article is not specific to Islamic countries and to use Islam as some kind of refutation of the premise is logically fallacious. I have provided links which clearly demonstrate that women are entering universities more than their male counterparts and we have many women now in positions of power, from Angela Merkel to Theresa Mae and Nicola Sturgeon etc why don't you address the evidence that is given instead of that which is not.
  7. 09 Sep '16 14:55
    Originally posted by vivify
    "...the bosom of the race"

    Classy pun right there.
  8. 09 Sep '16 14:59 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    Where is the evidence that women are increasing in power in Islamic countries?

    Link?
    I must point out that at least five Islamic countries have had a lady President and yet the US of A has not. Ouch! that gotta hurt! Here is a link, knock yourself out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_female_political_leaders

    A picture of Mrs Clinton with some Afghani lady politicians.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_female_political_leaders#/media/File:Hillary_Clinton_with_Afghan_female_politicians_in_2011.jpg

    Print it off and keep it by your bed so that you can kiss it before going to sleep every night.
  9. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    09 Sep '16 18:15
    Originally posted by vivify
    "...the bosom of the race"

    Classy pun right there.
    TIL Nikolai Tesla was a titillating man... minus the 'illating" portion.
    Wore double-breasted suits, 'e did.
  10. 09 Sep '16 18:28 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I must point out that at least five Islamic countries have had a lady President and yet the US of A has not. Ouch! that gotta hurt! Here is a link, knock yourself out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_female_political_leaders

    A picture of Mrs Clinton with some Afghani lady politicians.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_female_politi ...[text shortened]...
    Print it off and keep it by your bed so that you can kiss it before going to sleep every night.
    So with all this feminism in Islam, when will women get to drive in Saudi Arabia and be allowed to work and be in public by themselves?

    Can they change Sharia law so that a woman testifying in court counts as much as a man?
  11. 09 Sep '16 21:02
    Originally posted by whodey
    So with all this feminism in Islam, when will women get to drive in Saudi Arabia and be allowed to work and be in public by themselves?

    Can they change Sharia law so that a woman testifying in court counts as much as a man?
    Clearly you did not read my text for how could you have failed to assimilate this,

    'though it will take centuries to break down the habits and customs of peoples that bar the way to such a simiply and scientifically ordered civilization. '
  12. 09 Sep '16 23:16
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Clearly you did not read my text for how could you have failed to assimilate this,

    'though it will take centuries to break down the habits and customs of peoples that bar the way to such a simiply and scientifically ordered civilization. '
    So you think those that take the words of Mohammad as literal and gospel will assimilate?

    Why?
  13. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    10 Sep '16 03:08
    Originally posted by whodey
    So you think those that take the words of Mohammad as literal and gospel will assimilate?

    Why?
    So you figure men have really made the world a better place? I think you can see how all that turned out.

    Tesla was exaggerating a bit to get Kennedy's attention. The bee analogy is just allegory, it would never happen in human existence, can you imagine one woman making all the humans of the race? Get serious. He just wanted to make the case that men are seeing barest beginnings of the power of women.
  14. 10 Sep '16 03:21 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So you figure men have really made the world a better place? I think you can see how all that turned out.

    Tesla was exaggerating a bit to get Kennedy's attention. The bee analogy is just allegory, it would never happen in human existence, can you imagine one woman making all the humans of the race? Get serious. He just wanted to make the case that men are seeing barest beginnings of the power of women.
    What are you babbling about?

    By in large, women are treated like cattle in Islam, or worse. This is common knowledge.

    Do you really think they can ignore the words and example of Mohammad to "reform"?

    There is no reform after Mo. By Islamic law, he is the final say on every matter known to man.
  15. 10 Sep '16 09:25 / 4 edits
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So you figure men have really made the world a better place? I think you can see how all that turned out.

    Tesla was exaggerating a bit to get Kennedy's attention. The bee analogy is just allegory, it would never happen in human existence, can you imagine one woman making all the humans of the race? Get serious. He just wanted to make the case that men are seeing barest beginnings of the power of women.
    Actually Tesla I don't think was making the bee analogy as a complete parallel but more a way that society would be ordered. Its of great interest and I sincerely think that many of the elements that he mentions we are already seeing the emergence of. Take for example this statement 'desexualized armies of workers'. Already there are efforts afoot in places like Canada to blur the demarcations between gender or to remove it altogether. In places like Japan almost 50 of adults do not engage in sexual intercourse being too tired from working!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/11357201/Nearly-50-per-cent-of-Japanese-adults-not-having-sex.html