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  1. Donation Pawnokeyhole
    Krackpot Kibitzer
    17 Dec '02 17:41
    This site is getting so good I feel greedy asking Russ and Chrismo for
    any improvements. But I thought it would be interesting to include a
    graph to represent fluctuations in one's rating over time, so that
    people could see how they, and their opponents, are going from
    strength to strength (or, in my case, from weakness to weakness).
    Extrapolations of future playing strength, with a % margin of error
    reflecting number of games played, might even be included!

    Aiden

  2. Subscriber Russ
    RHP Code Monkey
    19 Dec '02 12:08
    Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
    This site is getting so good I feel greedy asking Russ and Chrismo
    for
    any improvements. But I thought it would be interesting to include a
    graph to represent fluctuations in one's rating over time, so that
    people could see how they, and their opponents, are going from
    strength to strength (or, in my case, from weakness to weakness).
    Extrap ...[text shortened]... h a % margin of error
    reflecting number of games played, might even be included!

    Aiden

    This is a good idea, but the problem we have is the huge volume of
    data it would generate. Maybe if we did a weekly snapshot, and only
    for players who are currently active, we could minimise the problem.
    Would weekly updates be sufficient, or are you after a game by game
    graph?

    -Russ
  3. Donation Pawnokeyhole
    Krackpot Kibitzer
    20 Dec '02 16:51
    Well, I was thinking of a game by game snapshot over one's entire
    playing history. Would it really generate a lot of data, compared to all
    the individual game histories, at 4 (or 5) digits per game played?
    Perhaps the headache for you would be setting up an entirely new
    databank.

    On a relateed subject, followers of many types of sport usual revel in
    the statistics that various teams or players generate: home runs, hat-
    tricks, unbeaten records, high scores, etc. Perhaps it might be
    interesting to include a table of interesting statistics with links to the
    games or players that produced them, e.g., longest game, longest
    unbeaten run, most queens, underpromotions etc.

    Just idle thoughts from someone who doesn't have to do the
    programming

    Aiden
  4. 20 Dec '02 17:52
    I like this. I think I could find myself top of a ladder for the first time
    ever. "Most Blunderous Player" fits me well I think!

    If these sort of things could be introduced (longest winning streak,
    most moves in day, that sort of thing) it really would be fascinating.

    But then I don't know anything at all about programming and coding
    so it might be rather harder to implement than I might hope.

    Mark
  5. Subscriber Russ
    RHP Code Monkey
    22 Dec '02 19:21 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
    Would it really generate a lot of data, compared to all
    the individual game histories, at 4 (or 5) digits per game played?

    You are quite correct, compared to the game histories, the space required for rating over time for every game would be insignificant.

    I was maybe being a little over cautious. There is good reason why I’m a little nervous about amassing too much data, but no cause for concern. (Our next server upgrade will probably not be far off, already! )

    The other stats you request are mostly doable, but stats normally require very database intensive queries, not something you want to happen too frequently. I may have a way round way this though…

    Anyway, you have sold me on the ‘rating over time’ idea.

    See, it does pay to talk back.

    -Russ
  6. Subscriber Chris
    Site Admin
    23 Dec '02 02:39 / 4 edits
    Originally posted by Russ
    This is a good idea, but the problem we have is the huge volume of
    data it would generate. Maybe if we did a weekly snapshot, and only
    for players who are currently active, we could minimise the problem.
    Would weekly updates be sufficient, or are you after a game by game
    graph?

    -Russ
    While Russ messes around with the clever stuff; creating all the improvements that are visible on the site and fixing all the bugs, I take care off all the really important stuff, like storing rating histories.

    As it happens, this information has been stored for a while now. Both Russ and I have two weeks off work so we'll take a look at this and see what we can do.
  7. Subscriber Russ
    RHP Code Monkey
    23 Dec '02 18:24
    Originally posted by Chrismo
    I take care off all the really important stuff, like storing rating histories. As it happens, this information has been stored for a while now.
    This was news to me! One quick look confirms it is all there, and has been there for some time!

    I will have a ponder over how to present this gold mine of data!

    -Russ
  8. Subscriber Russ
    RHP Code Monkey
    24 Dec '02 01:21
    Here is a first pass on some new code for you guys to try:

    http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/yourhist.php

    If you want to see other people's stats then do this

    http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/yourhist.php?uid=XXXX

    where XXXX is a user id.

    If you don't understand this, fear not - I will link from the site proper soon.

    Post any feedback to this thread.

    -Russ

  9. 24 Dec '02 03:07
    Originally posted by Russ
    Here is a first pass on some new code for you guys to try:

    http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/yourhist.php

    If you want to see other people's stats then do this

    http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/yourhist.php?uid=XXXX

    where XXXX is a user id.

    If you don't understand this, fear not - I will link from the site proper soon.

    Post any feedback to this thread.

    -Russ

    I like it.....the only thing I dont like is that I can see how bad I am
  10. 24 Dec '02 09:50
    I like the plot. It shows how inconsistant my playing has been over time... or should that be consistantly bad
  11. Donation mwmiller
    RHP Member No.16
    24 Dec '02 09:57
    Looks good Russ! All that's missing is a horizontal "average" line.

    regards, Marc
  12. Subscriber Russ
    RHP Code Monkey
    24 Dec '02 10:53
    Average line, eh...umm.
    Let me see what I can do.

    -Russ
  13. Subscriber Russ
    RHP Code Monkey
    24 Dec '02 11:52
    Ok, I don't want to spend too much time on this one, as what I have done will do for the time being. A button exists on the 'Your Games' page now that links to the history graph.

    To view other people's history, you will still need to fudge the URL as shown earlier.

    -Russ