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Is 2. e5 objectively good? I haven't seen it ever as long as I have been using the French Defense but it has appeared on me 3 times in the last week. And is 2...d6 the best response to it?

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Non-Chalantly moving this to the top :-)

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Originally posted by TimmyToilet
Is 2. e5 objectively good? I haven't seen it ever as long as I have been using the French Defense but it has appeared on me 3 times in the last week. And is 2...d6 the best response to it?

-Tim
From my experience 2 .... d5 is the best response.

If the pawn is then taken the natural move is Bxd6. Alternatively white transposes into the Advanced variation of French via d4.

-mike

EDIT: Corrected the typo i made the move should say Bxd6 not Bxb6 as it was originally. Sorry.

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B x b6??

Huh?

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Originally posted by saffa73
B x b6??

Huh?
He meant Bxd6, but anyway. Thank you for your response. Does anyone else have any experiences with 2. e5?

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Originally posted by TimmyToilet
He meant Bxd6, but anyway. Thank you for your response. Does anyone else have any experiences with 2. e5?
A database search will probably lead you to the same conclusion as i posted. The two possible lines i covered are the 'text book' lines or the most sound move for black.

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1...c5!

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Originally posted by TimmyToilet
He meant Bxd6, but anyway. Thank you for your response. Does anyone else have any experiences with 2. e5?
I agree....just play 2...d5. It makes no sense for white to move his e-pawn twice and then get rid of it en passant, helping you develop and put your bishop on a great square. I'd go with d5. There is no benefit to white for not playing 2. d4, which is obvious and best! 😀

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Originally posted by !~TONY~!
I agree....just play 2...d5. It makes no sense for white to move his e-pawn twice and then get rid of it en passant, helping you develop and put your bishop on a great square. I'd go with d5. There is no benefit to white for not playing 2. d4, which is obvious and best! 😀
The only reason as white i would play 2. e5, is to confuse an unprepared opponent in the hope that she/he plays a wild move that gives me an advantage. Moving 3. d4 would always be my intention depending on how wild Black's second move is.

-trekkie

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Both d6, challenging e5 pawn, and c5 look fine for me. d5 will most probably transpose to French Advance as was mentioned.

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Originally posted by TovMauzer
Both d6, challenging e5 pawn, and c5 look fine for me. d5 will most probably transpose to French Advance as was mentioned.
I had not thought of c5, that would be an interesting possibility.

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Originally posted by trekkie
I had not thought of c5, that would be an interesting possibility.
Well, as you said, wouldn't c5 just transpose anyway, after "2...c5 3. Nf3 d5"?

Would it make a difference in which order these moves are played?

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White would not have 3.d4 after 2...c5.

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Originally posted by TovMauzer
White would not have 3.d4 after 2...c5.
So what do we think is better objectively? 2...c5 or 2...d5?

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Originally posted by TimmyToilet
So what do we think is better objectively? 2...c5 or 2...d5?
2..... d5 is my standard move, it is the one i do after two nanoseconds of thought. I know the options for white's reply, so i know what is coming and how to deal with it.

2..... c5 is interesting and i must admit i night try it next time i have the chance.

In the end both moves are good, it is just what suits you and what move you have prepared for best.

mike

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Originally posted by TimmyToilet
Is 2. e5 objectively good? I haven't seen it ever as long as I have been using the French Defense but it has appeared on me 3 times in the last week. And is 2...d6 the best response to it?

-Tim
no no no no no no no no no no! I do not like that responce well first it does not take action. If you want to take real action you should copy with e5 or do the French Defence I do that alot or do c5.

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