Hi
I've caught two players OTB in league matches with this one and
countless in Blitz games. (the one below was played a few minutes ago).
It really does have cobwebs on it.
8....Ng8-e7 leaves the Bishop with no flight squares.
Black should play 6...cxd4 7.cxd4 and then 7...Bd7.
(7.cxd4 Nxd4 8.Nxd4 Qxd4 9.Bb5+ wins the Black Queen - an even older trap)
In this game my opponent tried to stir things up with his Queen
and she was caught short. Usually the games last longer but the
end is never really in any doubt.
One for your notebook. This one works, it has a proven track record.
Originally posted by KatastroofI'm prepared to play the Milner in Barry in blitz (and OTB if the
Nice trap!Am bit surprised you don't play the Milner-Barry gambit.Is this trap the reason?
price is right). But they walk into this instead.
Black can try and dig in but my philosophy is:
When I'm a piece up it means I can sacrifice two pieces and
only be one piece down.
So I start cooking up two piece sacs - usually to expose the King.
That way I stay alert and don't chuck wins.
Originally posted by greenpawn34Looks like the queen is trapped. Not to mention you've already won an exchange.
Hi
I've caught two players OTB in league matches with this one and
countless in Blitz games. (the one below was played a few minutes ago).
It really does have cobwebs on it.
8....Ng8-e7 leaves the Bishop with no flight squares.
Black should play 6...cxd4 7.cxd4 and then 7...Bd7.
(7.cxd4 Nxd4 8.Nxd4 Qxd4 9.Bb5+ wins the Black Queen - an even old ...[text shortened]... xb4 Qb6xb4 11. Bc1-a3 Qb4-b6 12. Ba3-d6 Ne7-g6 13. Nb1-c3 Qb6-b2 14. Nc3-a4[/pgn]
Oh yeah, it's a blunder alright but you will be surprised how
many players fall into it.
Black should play cxd4.
After White plays dxc5 then Bxc5 hits f7 and after Castle all they
think about is developing their King's Knight and castles.
Nf6 is a no-no, Nh6 then Bxh6 so they trot out Nge7.
My first OTB victim was
D.Campbell, Edinburgh Chess Club v Edin University, 1978.
1-0 after 9 moves. He resigned but in the other games most
players play on.
My database (this post has taken 10 minutes to write)
shows 35 players have walked into this between 1990 and 2006.
Most are white wins but there are a few Black wins (terrible games)
and a draw. There are even a couple of instances where White
missed b4 winning the piece!
A lot of these games are from things like the Yugoslav u-10 girls.
You have to be very careful using a database to get you into a
middle game.
Remember Opening books and data bases are just what was played
in other peoples games.
Ask yourself, Are you a chess player or a parrot?
Anybody who goes down a line they have not checked for themselves
and get's pasted deserves no sympathy at all.
Originally posted by greenpawn34actually a decent player of the french defense should have noted that in the advance variation white cannot post his bishop on the wonderful d3 square, no siree, not after 5...Bd7, tis not advisable, for if he does then he must reckon with losing a pawn, for example
Oh yeah, it's a blunder alright but you will be surprised how
many players fall into it.
Black should play cxd4.
After White plays dxc5 then Bxc5 hits f7 and after Castle all they
think about is developing their King's Knight and castles.
Nf6 is a no-no, Nh6 then Bxh6 so they trot out Nge7.
My first OTB victim was
D.Campbell, Edinburgh Ch ...[text shortened]... wn a line they have not checked for themselves
and get's pasted deserves no sympathy at all.
1.e4 e6, 2.d4 d5, 3.e5 c5, 4.c3 Nc6, 5.Nf3 Bd7! , 6.Bb5 ?! loses a pawn like nothing after 6...Nxe5, and 5...Bd7 also practically prevents 6.Bd3 for after 6...cxd, 7.cxd Qb6 the d pawn must leave the board, attempts to defend it are futile, e.g 8.Be3 Qxb2
therefore black has some tricks of his own, but the pawns trap makes Wile E Coyote look downright innocent!
Originally posted by robbie carrobiehttp://chesscoach1950.blogspot.com/2006/01/chess-understanding-french-defense.html
actually a decent player of the french defense should have noted that in the advance variation white cannot post his bishop on the wonderful d3 square, no siree, not after 5...Bd7, tis not advisable, for if he does then he must reckon with losing a pawn, for example
1.e4 e6, 2.d4 d5, 3.e5 c5, 4.c3 Nc6, 5.Nf3 Bd7! , 6.Bb5 ?! loses a pawn like noth ...[text shortened]... lack has some tricks of his own, but the pawns trap makes Wile E Coyote look downright innocent!
Originally posted by greenpawn348. ... a5.
Hi
I've caught two players OTB in league matches with this one and
countless in Blitz games. (the one below was played a few minutes ago).
It really does have cobwebs on it.
8....Ng8-e7 leaves the Bishop with no flight squares.
Black should play 6...cxd4 7.cxd4 and then 7...Bd7.
(7.cxd4 Nxd4 8.Nxd4 Qxd4 9.Bb5+ wins the Black Queen - an even old ...[text shortened]... xb4 Qb6xb4 11. Bc1-a3 Qb4-b6 12. Ba3-d6 Ne7-g6 13. Nb1-c3 Qb6-b2 14. Nc3-a4[/pgn]
Originally posted by gambit3That will do - anything but 8...Nge7 which is a plausible blunder.
8. ... a5.
(see my database stats. 30+ Humans have stumbled in this position
so it one woth knowing).
I'm just pointing it out that even in the safest looking positions
one silly move and POP there goes a piece.
Originally posted by greenpawn34glad to hear it's so common. I don't think it could be called a trap, but I fell into that at least once.
Hi
I've caught two players OTB in league matches with this one and
countless in Blitz games. (the one below was played a few minutes ago).
It really does have cobwebs on it.
8....Ng8-e7 leaves the Bishop with no flight squares.
Black should play 6...cxd4 7.cxd4 and then 7...Bd7.
(7.cxd4 Nxd4 8.Nxd4 Qxd4 9.Bb5+ wins the Black Queen - an even old ...[text shortened]... xb4 Qb6xb4 11. Bc1-a3 Qb4-b6 12. Ba3-d6 Ne7-g6 13. Nb1-c3 Qb6-b2 14. Nc3-a4[/pgn]
i have tended to find merit in the example of international master Ari Ziegler who states that while Qb6 is a good move, when one looks at the queen on d8 as it stands initially its actually quite powerful and therefore we should wait with the queen until we are really sure that we can improve its position. tis good no!