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  1. 25 Sep '07 20:12 / 1 edit
    Hello... I guess I would still consider myself a beginner, but I've been playing chess a lot for the past few years and one of my favorite things to play as black is the Accelerated Dragon defense which almost always plays out like this in my games:

    1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 5.Nc3 Bg7 6.Be3

    Usually the next move is for black is 6. ...Nf3

    However, one of my favorite things to do is
    6. ...Qb6

    When I do this, I usually get up at least a pawn in the ensuing moves, usually because of opponent's mistakes. However, I have never lost (but still don't have a large enough sample size) and am wondering what is wrong with that move? When I google it, I do not get any results which usually means that no one ever plays it, for a reason. Thanks.
  2. Standard member Dutch Defense
    Stealer of Souls
    25 Sep '07 20:13
    Originally posted by ndkarp
  3. 25 Sep '07 20:15
    Originally posted by Dutch Defense
  4. Donation !~TONY~!
    1...c5!
    25 Sep '07 20:32
    Originally posted by ndkarp
    Hello... I guess I would still consider myself a beginner, but I've been playing chess a lot for the past few years and one of my favorite things to play as black is the Accelerated Dragon defense which almost always plays out like this in my games:

    1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 5.Nc3 Bg7 6.Be3

    Usually the next move is for black is 6. ...Nf3
    ...[text shortened]... I do not get any results which usually means that no one ever plays it, for a reason. Thanks.
    7. Nd5! gains a tempo on the queen, when Black has to watch out for Nc7+, winning a rook, so it's not too hard to see that black either has to play ..Qa5+ or ..Qd8, neither is good.
  5. 25 Sep '07 20:53 / 4 edits
    Originally posted by !~TONY~!
    7. Nd5! gains a tempo on the queen, when Black has to watch out for Nc7+, winning a rook, so it's not too hard to see that black either has to play ..Qa5+ or ..Qd8, neither is good.
    I hear you... I can see how that is a good move for white but I still don't see where he gains the huge advantage.... Here's how I assume it would play out. Tell me where I go wrong!

    1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 5.Nc3 Bg7 6.Be3 Qb6 7.Nd5! Qxb2 8.Nc7+ Kd7 9.Nxa8 Nxd4 10.Bxd4 Bxd4 11.Rb1! Bc3+ 12.Ke2 Qxa2 11. ?
  6. 25 Sep '07 21:16 / 1 edit
    It could also end up (The initial difference being 9.Nxc6+)...

    1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 5.Nc3 Bg7 6.Be3 Qb6 7.Nd5! Qxb2 8.Nc7+ Kd7 9.Nxc6+ Kxc7 10.Nd4 Qc3+ 11. ?
  7. Donation !~TONY~!
    1...c5!
    25 Sep '07 21:37
    7..Qxb2 8. Rb1! Qxa2 9. Nxc6, and black has to pack up shop.
  8. 25 Sep '07 21:44
    Originally posted by ndkarp
    It could also end up (The initial difference being 9.Nxc6+)...

    1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 5.Nc3 Bg7 6.Be3 Qb6 7.Nd5! Qxb2 8.Nc7+ Kd7 9.Nxc6+ Kxc7 10.Nd4 Qc3+ 11. ?
    The 'pure' way to play this opening is 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 5.Nc3 Bg7 6.Be3 Nf6 7.Qd2 o-o 8. o-o-o d5 is quite a nusence for white as he is just slightly behind in his ideal development.
  9. 25 Sep '07 22:01
    Originally posted by !~TONY~!
    7..Qxb2 8. Rb1! Qxa2 9. Nxc6, and black has to pack up shop.
    oh. thanks! that's why!