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Albin Countergambit?

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Has anyone won or played using the albin countergambit (1.d4,d5; 2.c4,e5; 3.dxe5,d4; 4.Nf3,Nc6).Black sacrifices a pawn to develop pieces quickly and to cramp whites position.

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I am playing right now a game here, on RHP, against a guy with myrating+100...I am white...
If he wins I am seriously thinking to adopt it(Albin countergambit) as my second option against 1. d4

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It’s a bloody battle that has to be played well by black to reward the risk but if white can exchange pieces early there will be a clear advantage for white.

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played it once on here. This might actually be good OTB, because your opponents can't just consult some opening books and databases to find the best way to exploit the gambit pawn.

Game 1456748

We followed van Wely - Morozevich (2004 amber-rapid) till move 11, where Moro played 11...h6?! 12. c5! (Bxc5 then Qc2) and got into some trouble.

I didn't see any reason not to play 11...O-O, so I went for it. A few moves later it was pretty obvious white was better though. He controlled the key-square e4 with his knights, and he also had the great diagonal a8-h1 for his bishop.
I forced a queen trade then, but it didn't really help me. The pressure on b7 kept growing. After he forced a trade on b7, white is probably still much better; I was happy with the draw.

So, this particular line of the albin offers white a very nice position, and black will probably have to defend and play passively and hope for a draw.

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i play albin nearly always against QG, with best success against lower raters. i think it's a better game to use otb than correspondence.

vipiu's game looks interesting though, here's the link:
Game 3697311

and here's one that i have, also in progress:Game 3462813

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It's certainly not crazy and completely unsound, so I enjoy using it as black, both on here and OTB. On the other hand, if white plays correctly, they'll get a larger opening advantage than normal.

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I used to play it quite a bit. Might not stand up too well in cc against an opponent capable of research however.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albin_Countergambit

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Originally posted by Sorry4u
Has anyone won or played using the albin countergambit (1.d4,d5; 2.c4,e5; 3.dxe5,d4; 4.Nf3,Nc6).Black sacrifices a pawn to develop pieces quickly and to cramp whites position.
I used to play it from time to time. It is certainly quite playable at most levels, and even at GM level, where it's considered a little bit suspect, it gets played occasionally, e.g. by Morozevitch. The main reason I gave it up is that many white players play 2.Nf3 forcing black to find an alternative defence to the QG.

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90% of my games as black are albins, i'm a big albin player if you want to check some out.
Or send me a challenge and we can play/go through a few games.

J

Edit: a recent game here, interesting one too. Game 3473260

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Originally posted by Northern Lad
I used to play it from time to time. It is certainly quite playable at most levels, and even at GM level, where it's considered a little bit suspect, it gets played occasionally, e.g. by Morozevitch. The main reason I gave it up is that many white players play 2.Nf3 forcing black to find an alternative defence to the QG.
I play 1 d4 d5 2 c4...and Nf3 later....

I have a question...if I play 1 d4 d5 2 Nf3 and c4 later, what would be the main drawback of this different move line ? Right now it comes into my mind only some line in Gruenfield (where i do not play Nf3 - I play Ne2 instead), but nothing else...
Any ideas?

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I thought the trap that follows the lines below was interesting.

1. d4 d5
2. c4 e5
3. dxe5 d4
4. e3? Bb4+
5. Bd2 exd3
6. Bxb4?? exf2+
7. Ke2 fxg1=N+! (7. Kxf2 Qxd1)
8. Rxg1 Bg4+ (wins the queen next move)

Position after 8. ... Bg4+

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Originally posted by onyx2006
Edit: a recent game here, interesting one too. Game 3473260
That was a very interesting game, i think i'll check out the albin a bit

Why'd you decide on the sacrifice 24...RxB, as opposed to, say, 24...Bh3? The outcome was interesting, but i think it's a little risky lol

any more good albins like that? lol

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Originally posted by wittywonka
I thought the trap that follows the lines below was interesting.

1. d4 d5
2. c4 e5
3. dxe5 d4
4. e3? Bb4+
5. Bd2 exd3
6. Bxb4?? exf2+
7. Ke2 fxg1=N+! (7. Kxf2 Qxd1)
8. Rxg1 Bg4+ (wins the queen next move)

Position after 8. ... Bg4+
[fen]rn1qk1nr/ppp2ppp/8/4P3/1BP3b1/8/PP2K1PP/RN1Q1BR1[/fen]
Yes, but how often will white play 8.RxN?? The beauty of this trap, called the Lasker Trap, is white is pretty bad as early as 4. e3? and lost after 7...fxN=N!:

8. Ke1 (RxN?? Bg4+ wins) Qh4+
9. Kd2 (g3? is bad after ...Qe4+ followed by ...QxR) Nc6 (threatening the bishop)
10. Bc3 Bg4
after the impending...0-0-0 white is lost

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anyway, there is a level where you can not play the game based on tricks