Hi I'm new to the list. Is it considered OK or normal to use the analyse board feature?
Seems to me that chess should be about being able to visualise future positions without actually setting them up. But then a friend told me that it's considered normal in correspondence games to set up a board and check out the consequences.
Using that feature must increase your playing strength by at least 200 points and if one person uses it and the other doesn't then it's not a fair game.
Originally posted by jonnymacIt's up to you whether you want to use it or not. Really it's down to whether you want to be good at correspondence chess or are practicing for OTB.
Hi I'm new to the list. Is it considered OK or normal to use the analyse board feature?
Seems to me that chess should be about being able to visualise future positions without actually setting them up. But then a friend told me that it's considered normal in correspondence games to set up a board and check out the consequences.
Using that feature mu ...[text shortened]... least 200 points and if one person uses it and the other doesn't then it's not a fair game.
I use it extensively, but have found myself having difficulty when playing in real life and wanting to run through a few moves 🙂
Databases are also allowed in correspondance, which probably help players more, although I haven't used one yet.
Originally posted by jonnymacRead the FAQ for further informations. Correspodence chess does not introduce the same rules as real time chess. You can even use opening databases. As for analysis board it is perfectly ok to use it, otherwise it just wouldnt be there.
Hi I'm new to the list. Is it considered OK or normal to use the analyse board feature?
Seems to me that chess should be about being able to visualise future positions without actually setting them up. But then a friend told me that it's considered normal in correspondence games to set up a board and check out the consequences.
Using that feature mu ...[text shortened]... least 200 points and if one person uses it and the other doesn't then it's not a fair game.
However, if your goal is primarly to improve your over the board chess, play without it, to train your visualization abilities.
Originally posted by jonnymacBooks, databases, setting the game in analysis board or real board are all allowed and fair game.
Hi I'm new to the list. Is it considered OK or normal to use the analyse board feature?
Seems to me that chess should be about being able to visualise future positions without actually setting them up. But then a friend told me that it's considered normal in correspondence games to set up a board and check out the consequences.
Using that feature mu ...[text shortened]... least 200 points and if one person uses it and the other doesn't then it's not a fair game.
Using databases is a good idea and saves you a lot of time. Redhotpawn also has its small database (called Games Explorer) from masters games and players from here. Get firefox and greasmonkey scripts if you want to use this feature efficiently and fast. Only one click away!
See for example: http://www.redhotpawn.com/gamesexplorer/index.php?movelist=e2e4e7e6d2d4d7d5b1d2g8f6e4e5f6d7g1f3c7c5c2c3&c=1400
Thanks, but it would be good if this site allowed to you search for opponents that don't want to use that feature and then disables it. So we have games with matched oponents.
I think analyse board is good for some games, because you can have technically better quality and a deeper game that way, but in other games it's fun to have to think hard about the upcoming positions and maybe get it wrong.
Originally posted by jonnymacI understand where you're coming from, but why not just play in the manner you prefer without worrying about what your opponents do? And use ratings to find games which are evenly matched.
Thanks, but it would be good if this site allowed to you search for opponents that don't want to use that feature
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Originally posted by jonnymacI don't see the point in having the feature disabled as it would have no bearing on weather or not your opponent set the game up on a board for the same purpose...but if you fancy a game where we both agree no database and no analysis board...then send me a PM and I'll give it a go (if you're happy to play with 3/7 time controls).
Thanks, but it would be good if this site allowed to you search for opponents that don't want to use that feature and then disables it. So we have games with matched oponents.
I think analyse board is good for some games, because you can have technically better quality and a deeper game that way, but in other games it's fun to have to think hard about the upcoming positions and maybe get it wrong.
I once made the suggestion to create the ability to disable the analysis feature yourself with the re-enable button three clicks away...to help people who wanted top break the habit. But I think the idea took a speedy route to the developers trash bin as no one else supported it.
The downside of the analysis board, as mentioned in a previous post, is if you wish to improve OTB and you become over reliant on it. So quite healthy for me to have a game or two without it. Some might prefer to have these games unrated. Maybe you could start a thread for non db and non analysis board users to post in.
EDIT: You could put a note in your profile describing your preference.
Originally posted by ivan2908Love that site! especially the live commentary videos by IM Greg Shahade.
You wont need much of analyse board if you insist of doing regulary this exercises !
Tactical puzzles, game following only by algebraic notation, without board. How much this can really help ?
http://www.chessvideos.tv/chess-visualization-trainer.php
Originally posted by VarenkaI think that you're right, really, but I guess there's a tendency to worry about your rating and so you might start to always use analyse board, so as to play the best game possible. Shouldn't be vain though I guess.
I understand where you're coming from, but why not just play in the manner you prefer without worrying about what your opponents do? And use ratings to find games which are evenly matched.
I used it in one game because I wasn't sure whether giving up a minor piece for position was a good idea. It turned out it was a strong move but I felt somehow guilty for using it.
Originally posted by MahoutI think disabling it would take temptation away from the weak.
I don't see the point in having the feature disabled as it would have no bearing on weather or not your opponent set the game up on a board for the same purpose...but if you fancy a game where we both agree no database and no analysis board...then send me a PM and I'll give it a go (if you're happy to play with 3/7 time controls).
I once made the suggestio ...[text shortened]... users to post in.
EDIT: You could put a note in your profile describing your preference.
I'd maybe like to play the odd game where I do analyse and some where I don't. 'Cause there's pros and cons to both.
I'll post you a non-analysis game then and maybe when that's over we can do a fully analysed one. Might be interesting to compare the games. Just joined the site and don't have a rating yet.
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I think it's better to play without it.... I tried to quit using it but I failed 😞
I agree... once you get used with it, you become a much better player than you really are. I play on uchess too (blitz site), my rating there is 1100. Here it is 1500.
But I still stink sometimes even going through long analysis... that makes me feel better.
edit: Ok... it doesn't