Any thoughts on this game?

sonhouse

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02 Jun '10 12:11

sonhouse
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02 Jun '10 12:118 edits
Not perfect of course, so would be interested in seeing where white could have done better and black(me) also. I know at the end he could have drawn with perpet but I knew if I got the king to e7 when his queen was on the back row other than on a8, it would have been safe from checks and I had immediate mate threats, several in fact. So he missed the perpet but should he have taken the queen in the first place?(with the rook). My opponent was Seancool, rating mid 15's.

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1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Ng8f6 3. Nb1c3 Nf6xd5 4. Nc3xd5 Qd8xd5 5. d3 Nb8c6
6. Ng1f3 Bc8g4 7. Bf1e2 e5 8. Bc1e3 Bf8d6 9. c4 Qd5e6 10. c5 Bd6e7
11. O-O O-O-O 12. h3 Bg4h5 13. a3 h6 14. b4 g5 15. b5 Nc6b8 16. Qd1a4 Rh8g8
17. Qa4xa7 g4 18. c6 bxc6 19. bxc6 Qe6xc6 20. Ra1b1 gxf3 21. Rf1c1 Rg8xg2
22. Kg1h1 fxe2 23. Rc1xc6 Nb8xc6 24. Qa7a6 Kc8d7 25. Kh1xg2 Rd8g8
26. Kg2h2 Be7d6 27. f4 exf4 28. Be3f2 f3 29. Kh2h1 Rg8g2 30. Rb1c1 Rg2xf2
31. Qa6xc6 Kd7e7 32. Qc6e4 Ke7f8 33. Qe4a8 Kf8g7 34. Rc1g1 Kg7f6 35. Qa8d8 Kf6f5
36. Qd8d7 Kf5f6 37. Qd7d8 Kf6e6 38. Qd8c8 Ke6e7 0-1
Habeascorp
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02 Jun '10 13:21
I think white pressed wrongly but I preferred whites position up to maybe move 20. 20 hxg would probably have been better?

I cannot see a good alternative to taking the queen by that stage making the queen sack a good one especially as that e2 pawn is worth a rook on its own.
National Master Dale
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02 Jun '10 14:25
Whites 4th move Nxd5 looks strange to me.

I predict a collection of other moves would be better like 4.Qf3 or 4.Bc4 or maybe 4.d4
sonhouse
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02 Jun '10 15:392 edits
Originally posted by National Master Dale
Whites 4th move Nxd5 looks strange to me.

I predict a collection of other moves would be better like 4.Qf3 or 4.Bc4 or maybe 4.d4
I like the Q-f3 thing. Also I think he would have been better going for the Scandanavian Polka, maybe with 3 c4. Does 3 c4 put white behind in development too far?
greenpawn34
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02 Jun '10 16:521 edit
No perpetual here after 34...Bg6 instead of 34...Kf6.

Somehow the game Schiffers - Chigorin popped into my mind
when I saw the Queen sac and Rook and Bishop hounding the King.

Seancool - Sonhouse.

Schiffers - Chigorin

Here it is with the Missed Combination. Chigorin, alas, failed to find
22...Rh1+ and the forced mate. He played 22...b6 and the game was drawn.

Three pieces always mate and.....Check all checks.

Chigorin's choice opening may raise a dogmatic eyebrow or two.

EVENT Petersburg (Match)
SITE What Never Happened
DATE 1897.??.??
ROUND ?
WHITE Emmanuel Schiffers
BLACK Mikhail Chigorin
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[Event "Petersburg (Match)"]
[Site "What Never Happened"]
[Date "1897.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Emmanuel Schiffers"]
[Black "Mikhail Chigorin"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 3. Nxe5 Qe7 4. Nf3 d5 5. d3 dxe4 6. dxe4 Qxe4+ 7. Be2 Nc6 8. O-O Bd7 9. Nc3 Qg6 10. Ne5 Nxe5 11. Bh5 O-O-O 12. Bxg6 hxg6 13. Qe2 Bd6 14. Ne4 Nf3+ 15. gxf3 Bxh2+ 16. Kg2 Bh3+ 17. Kh1 Be5 18. Qe1 Bg4+ 19.Kg1 Bxf3 20. Ng3 Ne7 21. Qe3 Bc6 22. Qxa7 Rh1+ 23. Nxh1 Bh2+ 24. Kxh2 Rh8+ 25. Kg3 Nf5+ 26. Kf4 Rh4
sonhouse
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02 Jun '10 20:311 edit
Wow, I'll take being compared to Chigorin🙂 Have to admit, did not see the bishop block, would have ended that one a few moves earlier! I would have seen that OTB I think.
kenan
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02 Jun '10 22:59
Sick game.
sonhouse
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03 Jun '10 01:48
Originally posted by kenan
Sick game.
Sick game? If Greenpawn takes a look, I listen.
greenpawn34
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03 Jun '10 03:26
He meant 'slick' game, he missed out an 'L''
He obviously cannot spel.
Diet Coke
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03 Jun '10 10:44
Originally posted by sonhouse
Sick game? If Greenpawn takes a look, I listen.
Sick isn't necessarily negative in this context. 😛
kenan
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05 Jun '10 05:13
Originally posted by sonhouse
Sick game? If Greenpawn takes a look, I listen.
Well played by white, nice queen side attack.

EVENT	Petersburg (Match)
SITE	What Never Happened
DATE	1897.??.??
ROUND	?
WHITE	Emmanuel Schiffers
BLACK	Mikhail Chigorin

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Any thoughts on this game?