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  1. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Just another day
    15 Mar '10 00:34 / 1 edit
    How should I have played the endgame, maybe starting at White's 25th move? Were my two Bishops and Rook a winning combination vs his two Rooks?


  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Just another day
    15 Mar '10 00:38 / 2 edits
    Hit LAST to see the position:

  3. 15 Mar '10 04:32 / 5 edits
    27.h3 is a terrible move.
    Homework assignment 1-Try to figure out why? take your time.
    Why on earth would a National master say 27.h3 is terrible.

    Whites 28th -30th moves are really useless bishop wiggling.
    The bishop is well placed on c3. Wiggling your bishop does not improve its position.

    Assignment 2-- Try to come up with a plan that actually accomplishes something.
    Imagine that your opponent doesn`t move except to capture free pieces and you can make several moves in a row.
    After you have made all these moves in a row if your opponent is able to still say so what then you basically have no plan.

    Assignment 3--Try to figure out which move is the losing move.
  4. 15 Mar '10 08:26
    3. d4? - Game does downhill after that


    3. Nc3!
  5. 15 Mar '10 08:30
    On move 40, I would have tried b5. With the idea of advancing my two queenside pawns againts black's one apawn. Aiming to create a passed pawn which can then be used either to promote or as a threat/distraction to enable picking off some other pawns.

    You do give black a passed pawn too, but its well blockaded by your bishops.

    Black can never blockade your pawn as a bishop can always make the king or rook doing the blocking move. Or, in the case of a rook, get taken instead which would leave you a bishop ahead.

    Phil.
  6. 15 Mar '10 09:16
    Originally posted by National Master Dale
    27.h3 is a terrible move.
    Homework assignment 1-Try to figure out why? take your time.
    Why on earth would a National master say 27.h3 is terrible.

    Whites 28th -30th moves are really useless bishop wiggling.
    The bishop is well placed on c3. Wiggling your bishop does not improve its position.

    Assignment 2-- Try to come up with a plan that ...[text shortened]... en you basically have no plan.

    Assignment 3--Try to figure out which move is the losing move.
    "Why on earth would a National master say 27.h3 is terrible."

    Yes, indeed, I can't figure out why this would be a bad move, let alone a terrible one. It effectively blocks black's counterplay on the kingside. There are other good moves, but none that I find better.

    When looking for terrible moves on the white side, there are plenty of them. The first really awfull move I saw was 17.Nd4?? Why? Because it throws away the initiative whereas 17.Rxd7+ practically won the game. White made that move 10 moves later, it was still a good one, but far less effective than it would have been here.

    "Try to figure out which move is the losing move"
    Make sure you distinguish between the move that effectively lost the game, and the move that should have lost the game. They are not the same.
  7. 15 Mar '10 12:58
    Originally posted by Mephisto2
    "Why on earth would a National master say 27.h3 is terrible."

    Yes, indeed, I can't figure out why this would be a bad move, let alone a terrible one. It effectively blocks black's counterplay on the kingside. There are other good moves, but none that I find better.

    When looking for terrible moves on the white side, there are plenty of them. The fir ...[text shortened]... ctively lost the game, and the move that should have lost the game. They are not the same.
    mmm, i have been trying to figure out for ages why 27.h3 is no good. Exchange sac to keep king in the centre with rook and queen sniffing around would have been great.
  8. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Just another day
    15 Mar '10 14:01
    Originally posted by Tiwaking
    3. d4? - Game does downhill after that


    3. Nc3!
    3. Nc3 blocks the c Pawn. I use a system I saw on a video in which you slowly take control of space instead of instantly attacking the Queen.
  9. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Just another day
    15 Mar '10 14:03 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by National Master Dale
    27.h3 is a terrible move.
    Homework assignment 1-Try to figure out why? take your time.
    Why on earth would a National master say 27.h3 is terrible.

    Whites 28th -30th moves are really useless bishop wiggling.
    The bishop is well placed on c3. Wiggling your bishop does not improve its position.

    Assignment 2-- Try to come up with a plan that ...[text shortened]... en you basically have no plan.

    Assignment 3--Try to figure out which move is the losing move.
    My guess - gives up the long diagonal?

    EDIT - No...g4 hxg4 fxg4 Be4

    It gives the opposing Pawns a "handle" to attack and a tempo I suppose.
  10. 15 Mar '10 18:21
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    3. Nc3 blocks the c Pawn. I use a system I saw on a video in which you slowly take control of space instead of instantly attacking the Queen.
    Works with the Veresov

    Blocking the QBP is not fatal and ties in with an easy Nd5 later (since blacks QP is gone). Control of e5 is more important


    Not that I know anything. I only play 1.f4! :p
  11. 15 Mar '10 20:30
    Originally posted by National Master Dale
    Assignment 3--Try to figure out which move is the losing move.
    47. Rd3 😏
    I is proud.
  12. 15 Mar '10 20:55
    Originally posted by Big Orange Country
    47. Rd3 😏
    I is proud.
    Very funny. 47.Rd3 is the only legal move, how could that possibly be the 'losing' move?
  13. 15 Mar '10 22:23
    Originally posted by Mephisto2
    Very funny. 47.Rd3 is the only legal move, how could that possibly be the 'losing' move?
    it's the last move white made before losing.
    i would assume that this constitutes the "losing move".
  14. Standard member clandarkfire
    Grammar Nazi
    16 Mar '10 04:02
    Originally posted by National Master Dale
    [b]27.h3 is a terrible move.
    Homework assignment 1-Try to figure out why? take your time.
    Why on earth would a National master say 27.h3 is terrible.
    /b]
    Because National Master Dale doesn't know as much as he thinks he knows?
  15. 16 Mar '10 08:31
    Homework answers;
    assignment 1


    27.h3 is a terrible move for the same reason that whites next moves are terrible.
    They are useless and accomplish nothing usefull.
    I agree that the word terrible is arguably an exageration since its no more harmful to white`s position than saying I pass.I felt it was important to label it as terrible since it is very important to appreciate that useless moves are terrible a gigantic percentage of the time and just like the centre of the board its a really important principle.

    assignment 2
    It is very important to not play useless moves.Wasting time is always important and not only in the opening.

    assignment 3
    46.Rd8 is the losing move.