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best black opening for QGD and Colle'

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I'm very much a novice player. I am playing sicilian dragon for e4 openings, but I need to decide what is best for d4 when it's QGD (I'd never accept) or Colle. I have a more advanced across the board coach who is always playing d4 openings. I've looked at QGD orthodox, slav, semi slav, and for colle, semetrical and 2 knights defense(it's called something else). I realize it really depends on exactly what white plays. I need an attack plan for moves 10-20.

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Originally posted by ladyviola66
I'm very much a novice player. I am playing sicilian dragon for e4 openings, but I need to decide what is best for d4 when it's QGD (I'd never accept) or Colle. I have a more advanced across the board coach who is always playing d4 openings. I've looked at QGD orthodox, slav, semi slav, and for colle, semetrical and 2 knights defense(it's called someth ...[text shortened]... alize it really depends on exactly what white plays. I need an attack plan for moves 10-20.
Hi, if you play the dragon, why not try 1...g6, ...Bg7 and ...c5, what happens is you end up with a Benoni type of position similar to this.



i myself like it for it is very flexible, requires practically no theory and can be played against anything white may try, both against 1.d4 and 1.e4

wish you well, regards Robbie.

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Originally posted by ladyviola66
I'm very much a novice player. I am playing sicilian dragon for e4 openings, but I need to decide what is best for d4 when it's QGD (I'd never accept) or Colle. I have a more advanced across the board coach who is always playing d4 openings. I've looked at QGD orthodox, slav, semi slav, and for colle, semetrical and 2 knights defense(it's called someth ...[text shortened]... alize it really depends on exactly what white plays. I need an attack plan for moves 10-20.
I'm pretty much a novice and I've settled on King's Indian Defense against 1.d4. When I first started I struggled when white would pin my knight with Bg5. It took me a while to realize that h6 is a nice reply and shores up the castle nicely.

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Originally posted by ladyviola66
I'm very much a novice player. I am playing sicilian dragon for e4 openings, but I need to decide what is best for d4 when it's QGD (I'd never accept) or Colle. I have a more advanced across the board coach who is always playing d4 openings. I've looked at QGD orthodox, slav, semi slav, and for colle, semetrical and 2 knights defense(it's called someth ...[text shortened]... alize it really depends on exactly what white plays. I need an attack plan for moves 10-20.
I would try to play the Tchigorin defence.
1.d4 d5 2.c4 Nc6
In OTB chess it’s a great “weapon” because it’s a bit underrated and not a lot of players do study this opening. I play it occasionally in my CC games and here on RHP. Obviously you should know the lines as well. The plans are similar, so it’s worth having a look at that.
There are also some good books about the Tchigorin:
1. The Tchigorin defence by Valeri Bronznik
2. The Chigorin Defence According to Morozevich
Both books are not bad.

If you go for MrHand’s advice and change your opening to Kings-indian then it it worth having a look at games from Radjabov, Amonatov or Svidler. Even Topalov plays it sometimes.

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Originally posted by ladyviola66
I'm very much a novice player. I am playing sicilian dragon for e4 openings, but I need to decide what is best for d4 when it's QGD (I'd never accept) or Colle. I have a more advanced across the board coach who is always playing d4 openings. I've looked at QGD orthodox, slav, semi slav, and for colle, semetrical and 2 knights defense(it's called someth ...[text shortened]... alize it really depends on exactly what white plays. I need an attack plan for moves 10-20.
1...f5.....or (as I am trying out right now)
1.d4 Nf6
2.c4 e5
3.dxe5 Ng5 (trust me, you WILL win the pawn back)

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Originally posted by c guy1
1...f5.....or (as I am trying out right now)
1.d4 Nf6
2.c4 e5
3.dxe5 Ng5 (trust me, you WILL win the pawn back)
Ok, you win the pawn back, but are you prepared to pay the price???

1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 Ng4 4. Bf4 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bb4+ 6. Nbd2 Qe7 7. a3 Ngxe5 8. Nxe5 Nxe5 9. e3 Bxd2+ 10. Qxd2

The most played move is 10...d6 11.Be2 0-0 12.0-0 So what did you achieve? Bishop pair gone and you have problems to get active on the Queen side!!!


1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 Ng4 4. Bf4 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bb4+ 6.Nc3

This is another interesting line. White tries to hang on to the pawn. 6...Qe7 7.Qd5 and suddently you realize that winning back that pawn is not that easy. 7...Bxc3+ 8.bxc3
And now two line are the most commen played:
8...Qa3 or 8...f6

I guess in OTB chess the Budapester gambit is a nice weapon again but on RHP or in CC games where you use your database I guess black will struggle.