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  1. 26 Nov '15 14:37 / 1 edit
    GreenPawn,
    What do you think about the White and Black side openings in this game through move 22 for white?

    Unknown Player Vs. KingOnPoint
    BLITZ Game

  2. Subscriber sundown316
    The Mighty Messenger
    26 Nov '15 15:50
    Don't know about the opening, but White threw away a win with 59.Kf4?? He wins with 59.Kf5, because if 59...Kd4, 60.Kf4 wins Black's pawn.
  3. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    26 Nov '15 16:08
    57...Kd5 was a god-awful move.
  4. Subscriber sundown316
    The Mighty Messenger
    26 Nov '15 20:52
    Originally posted by sundown316
    Don't know about the opening, but White threw away a win with 59.Kf4?? He wins with 59.Kf5, because if 59...Kd4, 60.Kf4 wins Black's pawn.

    Sorry, it should be 59...Kd3
  5. 27 Nov '15 00:49
    Hi KingOnPoint,

    The tripled e-pawns were always going be weak unless the
    other lad has Knights - then the three pawns can keep them at bay,

    Some have pointed a missed win the ending.

    Never really use blitz games because they are blitz games
    and they are even more of a lottery than normal RHP games.
  6. Standard member DeepThought
    Losing the Thread
    29 Nov '15 15:12
    Originally posted by sundown316
    Don't know about the opening, but White threw away a win with 59.Kf4?? He wins with 59.Kf5, because if 59...Kd4, 60.Kf4 wins Black's pawn.
    Yes, that's a must know ending, the American IM Jeremy Silman calls it a trebuchet - as one of the kings is flung away from the pawns. I'd regard his endgame book as a must read for anyone who doesn't recognize that ending.
  7. 01 Dec '15 00:44 / 2 edits
    Sundown and DeepThought,
    If 59. Kf5, then Black can play 59... Kd5 keeping the black pawn. Secondly, even if White and Black play 60. Kf4 Kd6 61. Kxe4 Black can still keep timely opposition starting with 61. ...Ke6 against White's King. Black's King can simply gain opposition against the White King and maintain it for a draw, at the very least, because White's pawn is already on the 3rd rank and not able to move 2 squares forward instead 1 square forward at the proper time.
  8. 01 Dec '15 01:13 / 1 edit
    Hey All
    Apparently, 5. a4 is not played against the Semi-Slav, but against the Slav. So, the correct move order is 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 allowing 4. ...dxc4 and 5. a4 Bf5 6.e3 e6 7. Bxc4. Perhaps, the Semi-Slav should not use 4. ...dxc4 with 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3.
  9. Subscriber sundown316
    The Mighty Messenger
    01 Dec '15 02:12
    Originally posted by KingOnPoint
    Sundown and DeepThought,
    If 59. Kf5, then Black can play 59... Kd5 keeping the black pawn. Secondly, even if White and Black play 60. Kf4 Kd6 61. Kxe4 Black can still keep timely opposition starting with 61. ...Ke6 against White's King. Black's King can simply gain opposition against the White King and maintain it for a draw, at the very least, because ...[text shortened]... the 3rd rank and not able to move 2 squares forward instead 1 square forward at the proper time.
    Quite correct, King, as White can't create the tempo he needs to force Black to give up the opposition.
  10. Standard member DeepThought
    Losing the Thread
    01 Dec '15 07:59 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by KingOnPoint
    Sundown and DeepThought,
    If 59. Kf5, then Black can play 59... Kd5 keeping the black pawn. Secondly, even if White and Black play 60. Kf4 Kd6 61. Kxe4 Black can still keep timely opposition starting with 61. ...Ke6 against White's King. Black's King can simply gain opposition against the White King and maintain it for a draw, at the very least, because ...[text shortened]... the 3rd rank and not able to move 2 squares forward instead 1 square forward at the proper time.
    59. Kf5 Kd5 60. Kf4 and black cannot move his king to a square where the pawn is protected, as d4 is covered by the pawn:
    However black can try 60. ... Kd6 and if 61. Kxe5 Ke6 is drawn as white needs the opposition:
    . So you are right, but since drawing is better than losing white should have done this instead of allowing black to set up the trebuchet position.