Chance and Chess

I thought this was covered before or is it the same thread been 'bumped.'

I play 11.Bg5 to pin an f6 Knight to curtail it's influence on the centre.

6 moves later my opponent has a back-rank combination that I never
saw coming but it is thwarted by my Bishop on g5 (it protects c1),

What else can I say but I was "Lucky."

I played Bg5 NOT to stop something I never saw.
I played it for a totally different reason. The Bishop stopped the
mate by 'chance.'

We are restriced by the confines of the English language.
What word can I use to describe what has happened?

You will find the word; "Lucky" is many chess books written by
some great players.

There is no luck in a sound combination - that is skill.

But chance does play a part in this game like it does
in all games.

Originally posted by greenpawn34
I thought this was covered before or is it the same thread been 'bumped.'

I play 11.Bg5 to pin an f6 Knight to curtail it's influence on the centre.

6 moves later my opponent has a back-rank combination that I never
saw coming but it is thwarted by my Bishop on g5 (it protects c1),

What else can I say but I was "Lucky."

I played Bg5 NOT to s skill.

But chance does play a part in this [b]game like it does
in all games.[/b]

The bishop didn't stop the mate by chance. It stopped mate because you put it on g5. A bishop on g5 doesn't cover c1 by chance, it does so because of how bishops move.

You're being silly. 😛

This does bring up a new idea for a chess piece: The random bishop.

Originally posted by ResigningSoon
The bishop didn't stop the mate by chance. It stopped mate because you put it on g5. A bishop on g5 doesn't cover c1 by chance, it does so because of how bishops move.

You're being silly. 😛

This does bring up a new idea for a chess piece: The random bishop.

You said it yourself. "The Random Bishop."

Random = Chance.

Case Closed.

Oh, the stronger a chess player is, the less likely it is he misses something important.

Originally posted by heinzkat
Oh, the stronger a chess player is, the less likely it is he misses something important.

Thank you Heinz - "less likely." not definitely.

"less likely" = there is a chance is may happen.

Therefore there is an element of 'chance' in chess.

Case Closed - Thread Closed - let us move on.

If you drop a pair of dice in exactly the same way each time you will get a different combination, or not, depending on chance.

If you play the same moves in chess over and over the out come will be the same, no deviation what so ever. No chance involved.

Luck however is completely different, I bet every player on this site has "lucked" in to a winning position at some point.

However, if you replayed those same moves again, the out come would be the same, so luck on repeated plays of the same moves has no bearing, neither has chance.

Originally posted by phlebas
If you drop a pair of dice in exactly the same way each time you will get a different combination, or not, depending on chance.

If you play the same moves in chess over and over the out come will be the same, no deviation what so ever. No chance involved.

Luck however is completely different, I bet every player on this site has "lucked" in to a winning ...[text shortened]... d be the same, so luck on repeated plays of the same moves has no bearing, neither has chance.

If you hold the dice in the same position and drop them in exactly the same way on the same surface, the result will be the same every time.