checkmate five moves

It was a while ago (and my opponent never came back), but they were the Captain of awesome (for about four moves on their part).

Can you get this position in 5 moves.
Try and work out the fives moves that leads to this position.


(SG is not allowed to play.)

It's actually harder to find than I first thought it would be.

Originally posted by greenpawn34
Can you get this position in 5 moves.
Try and work out the fives moves that leads to this position.

[fen]r1bqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 6[/fen]
(SG is not allowed to play.)

Fine ... then I'll just change the game.


Position after white's 16th move. Find the moves.

Once you figure out that the g8 Knight is actually the original b8 Knight
then it all fits.

Staying with the theme of mate in 5 moves here is the last 5 moves
of a piece of chess magic composed by Kasparyan in 1935.



OTB mates in 5 in a serious game are rare.
OTB mates in 5 in a serious game involing players over 2000 are even rarer.

M.Gardijan (2153) - G.Sulc (2020) Croatia 2004.

Though one: I have a solution after Black's 16th move, but not after White's 16th move. The overall idea is there, but hard to puzzle together.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Fine ... then I'll just change the game.


Position after white's 16th move. Find the moves.

Finally found it. It's again switching the knights that makes it difficult.

Originally posted by tvochess
Finally found it. It's again switching the knights that makes it difficult.

[pgn] b4 d5 b5 Bf5 b6 axb6 Nf3 Ra3 Ne5 Rf3 Nd7 e5 exf3 Ne7 Bb5 Ng6 Bc6 bxc6 Nc3 c5 Ne2 Nc6 Ng1 Qa8 Nf6 Kd8 Ne4 Kc8 Nc3 Kb8 Nb1 [/pgn]

Very good.

The composer is S. Hashimoto.

thanks. Where do you find these kind of puzzles?

He has 1,00's of the bloody things.

I saw this one once. N.Hoeg 1935


The stipulation is to add 10 White Rooks and Black checkmates in one move.

Setting up the mate in one was fairly easy.


I can do it with 6 Rooks.

But the condition is 10 Rooks. So....


There....how's about that?

It's wrong.
The catch is, as with any problem, you must prove the position could have
happened with legal moves.

So it's 6 under promotions to Rooks and as Black still has all his pawns
all the pieces bar the Queen have been fed to the White pawns.
And if you look at that Black pawn structure you will see at one time it
must been something like this.


To let the newly promoted Rooks out.

The solution is


Black plays 1...Qxb4 mate.

All you have to do is show how it happened. I've tried it a few times without success.
But this to Swiss G is kid's stuff.

Originally posted by tvochess
thanks. Where do you find these kind of puzzles?

Magazines like StrateGems, Probleemblad, etc. all have them.

http://www.strategems.net/sections/section.html?page=retros-and-proof-games
http://www.probleemblad.nl/

A collection of retros and proof games from various international magazines:
http://www.janko.at/Retros/index.htm

Originally posted by greenpawn34
[fen]4k3/RpRR1Rpp/p1pQ1p2/1qRpp3/1R6/8/RKR5/R1R5[/fen]
Black plays 1...Qxb4 mate.

All you have to do is show how it happened. I've tried it a few times without success.
But this to Swiss G is kid's stuff.

Hoeg's problems are rarely kid's stuff.This proof was quite difficult.

Ugh. I hate RHP's PGN viewer. I'm always having to debug PGNs that work everywhere else. I'm tired of trying to fix this one, so here it is in plain text.

[ pgn]
[FEN "rnb2bnr/pp1ppppp/1PpP4/PkPB1PB1/1N4PP/5N2/RK2Pq2/R5Q1 b - - 0 1"]
1...cxd5 2.c6 Qe3 3.c7 Kc5 4.Nc6 dxc6 5.d7 Qf2 6.d8R Qe3 7.Rd6 Qf2 8.Re6 Qe3 9.Re4 Qf2 10.Rc4+ Kb5 11.Rcc1 Be6 12.c8R Na6 13.Rd8 Nc7 14.Rd6 Bd7 15.Re6 Nf6 16.Re4 Be6 17.Rec4 Nd7 18.R4c2 f6 19.bxc7 Nb6 20.c8R Bd7 21.Rd8 Be6 22.Rd6 Bd7 23.Re6 Bc8 24.Re4 Be6 25.Rd4 Rc8 26.axb6 Rc7 27.bxc7 Kb6 28.c8R Qe3 29.Rd8 a6 30.Rd6 Bc8 31.Re6 Qf2 32.Re3 Qh2 33.Rec3 Qc7 34.e4 Qd7 35.e5 Qc7 36.e6 Qd7 37.Ne5 fxe5 38.f6 Qc7 39.f7 Qd6 40.Rb4+ Kc7 41.Bf6 exf6 42.e7 Bd7 43.e8R Be6 44.Ra8 Qd7 45.Ra7 Kd8 46.g5 Bc5 47.g6 Ke7 48.f8R Bf7 49.Rd8 Qc7 50.Rd6 Qd7 51.gxf7 Qc7 52.f8R Qd7 53.Rc8 Be3 54.Rc7 g5 55.hxg5 Rf8 56.g6 Rf7 57.gxf7 Kd8 58.f8R+ Ke7 59.Rf7+ Ke8 60.Qc5 Qf5 61.Rdd7 Qd3 62.d6 Qb5 63.Rc5
[ /pgn]

Mea culpa - 54...g5 should have been 54...Bg5. Sorry, Russ!

Although I still wish the PGN viewer would give an another error message besides "invalid PGN inserted - check FEN".

"Illegal move on move 54" would be more helpful.

will 6 do? just made this up 🙂