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    27 Nov '12 20:41
    Originally posted by vivify
    Ah, this game is over. My fault, guys. Thought Ii saw a trap, but no cigar.

    [pgn]1.c4 b5 2.cxb5 e6 3.e4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bc5 5.h3 d5 6.d4 Bb6 7.e5 Ne4 8. Nxe4 dxe4 9.Ne2 Bb7 10.Be3 a6 11. Ng3 0-0 12.Bc4 Qh4 13.0-0 axb5 14.Bxb5 c6 15.Qd2 cxb5 16.Bg5 e3 17.Qxe3 18.Qxd4[/pgn]
    I saw the trap too, and that is how I began to look for a kink in it.

    That e3 push is a real nuisance, and I have seen it in reverse before.

    I often play the Albin Counter Gambit and get this setup (some pieces missing):



    I often sac a pawn or piece and have an attack bearing down my neck.

    Just when I get in Bh3, they play e6! with white and kill me.
    Bxe6 slows me down/fxe6 drops h3/ Qxe6 Ng5

    I can't tell you how many times I have fallen for that trick. It slows down my attack, and I lose. That's part of the reason I spotted it here.
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    28 Nov '12 02:29
    would this be a good move?


  3. Subscriber64squaresofpain
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    28 Nov '12 02:44
    Originally posted by tim88
    would this be a good move?


    [pgn]1.c4 b5 2.cxb5 e6 3.e4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bc5 5.h3 d5 6.d4 Bb6 7.e5 Ne4 8. Nxe4 dxe4 9.Ne2 Bb7 10.Be3 a6 11. Ng3 0-0 12.Bc4 Qh4 13.0-0 axb5 14.Bxb5 c6 15.Qd2 cxb5 16.Bg5 e3 17.Qxe3 Qxd4 Bg5h6 [/pgn]
    Black would play Qd5 I think... least I would anyway lol
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    28 Nov '12 03:40
    Originally posted by tim88
    would this be a good move?


    [pgn]1.c4 b5 2.cxb5 e6 3.e4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bc5 5.h3 d5 6.d4 Bb6 7.e5 Ne4 8. Nxe4 dxe4 9.Ne2 Bb7 10.Be3 a6 11. Ng3 0-0 12.Bc4 Qh4 13.0-0 axb5 14.Bxb5 c6 15.Qd2 cxb5 16.Bg5 e3 17.Qxe3 Qxd4 Bg5h6[/pgn]
    Simplest would be Qxe3 ... Attacking chances go way down after a queen trade (and a piece down)
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    28 Nov '12 04:38
    ok thanks guys, i see now its a bad move. i want to delete the thread but the edit button is not there, just ignore my last move
  6. Standard memberRJHinds
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    28 Nov '12 07:35
    Originally posted by tim88
    ok thanks guys, i see now its a bad move. i want to delete the thread but the edit button is not there, just ignore my last move
    If you had played 15.Qc1 it might have worked.
  7. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    28 Nov '12 07:54
    Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
    Simplest would be Qxe3 ... Attacking chances go way down after a queen trade (and a piece down)
    Doesn't ...Qd5 force a Q exchange and win another piece?
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    28 Nov '12 07:552 edits
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    If you had played 15.Qc1 it might have worked.
    are you sure i thnk black would win with Qd5 or not
  9. Standard memberRJHinds
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    28 Nov '12 10:071 edit
    Originally posted by tim88
    [b]are you sure i thnk black would win with Qd5 or not
    No I am not sure. I said it might work. I haven't tried to analyze it in detail.

    P.S. Black can not move to 15...Qd5 the way I see it. That would be an illegal move.
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    28 Nov '12 10:08
    this is my move the BQ cant D5 anymore

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    28 Nov '12 12:49
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Doesn't ...Qd5 force a Q exchange and win another piece?
    Yes, it does. I spoke too soon.
  12. Subscriber64squaresofpain
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    28 Nov '12 16:141 edit
    (ignore this, more failed pgn attempts)
  13. Subscriber64squaresofpain
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    28 Nov '12 16:161 edit
    Originally posted by tim88
    this is my move the BQ cant D5 anymore

    [pgn]1.c4 b5 2.cxb5 e6 3.e4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bc5 5.h3 d5 6.d4 Bb6 7.e5 Ne4 8. Nxe4 dxe4 9.Ne2 Bb7 10.Be3 a6 11. Ng3 0-0 12.Bc4 Qh4 13.0-0 axb5 14.Bxb5 c6 15.Qd2 cxb5 16.Bg5 e3 17.Qxe3 Qxd4 rfd1[/pgn]
    Edit:

    ok would black play Qxd1?

    would be a rook for bishop exchange
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    28 Nov '12 16:44
    Originally posted by 64squaresofpain
    Edit:

    ok would black play Qxd1?

    would be a rook for bishop exchange
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