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Originally posted by vivify
Ah, this game is over. My fault, guys. Thought Ii saw a trap, but no cigar.

[pgn]1.c4 b5 2.cxb5 e6 3.e4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bc5 5.h3 d5 6.d4 Bb6 7.e5 Ne4 8. Nxe4 dxe4 9.Ne2 Bb7 10.Be3 a6 11. Ng3 0-0 12.Bc4 Qh4 13.0-0 axb5 14.Bxb5 c6 15.Qd2 cxb5 16.Bg5 e3 17.Qxe3 18.Qxd4[/pgn]
I saw the trap too, and that is how I began to look for a kink in it.

That e3 push is a real nuisance, and I have seen it in reverse before.

I often play the Albin Counter Gambit and get this setup (some pieces missing):



I often sac a pawn or piece and have an attack bearing down my neck.

Just when I get in Bh3, they play e6! with white and kill me.
Bxe6 slows me down/fxe6 drops h3/ Qxe6 Ng5

I can't tell you how many times I have fallen for that trick. It slows down my attack, and I lose. That's part of the reason I spotted it here.

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would this be a good move?


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Originally posted by tim88
would this be a good move?


[pgn]1.c4 b5 2.cxb5 e6 3.e4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bc5 5.h3 d5 6.d4 Bb6 7.e5 Ne4 8. Nxe4 dxe4 9.Ne2 Bb7 10.Be3 a6 11. Ng3 0-0 12.Bc4 Qh4 13.0-0 axb5 14.Bxb5 c6 15.Qd2 cxb5 16.Bg5 e3 17.Qxe3 Qxd4 Bg5h6 [/pgn]
Black would play Qd5 I think... least I would anyway lol

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Originally posted by tim88
would this be a good move?


[pgn]1.c4 b5 2.cxb5 e6 3.e4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bc5 5.h3 d5 6.d4 Bb6 7.e5 Ne4 8. Nxe4 dxe4 9.Ne2 Bb7 10.Be3 a6 11. Ng3 0-0 12.Bc4 Qh4 13.0-0 axb5 14.Bxb5 c6 15.Qd2 cxb5 16.Bg5 e3 17.Qxe3 Qxd4 Bg5h6[/pgn]
Simplest would be Qxe3 ... Attacking chances go way down after a queen trade (and a piece down)

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ok thanks guys, i see now its a bad move. i want to delete the thread but the edit button is not there, just ignore my last move

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Originally posted by tim88
ok thanks guys, i see now its a bad move. i want to delete the thread but the edit button is not there, just ignore my last move
If you had played 15.Qc1 it might have worked.

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Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
Simplest would be Qxe3 ... Attacking chances go way down after a queen trade (and a piece down)
Doesn't ...Qd5 force a Q exchange and win another piece?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
If you had played 15.Qc1 it might have worked.
are you sure i thnk black would win with Qd5 or not

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Originally posted by tim88
[b]are you sure i thnk black would win with Qd5 or not
No I am not sure. I said it might work. I haven't tried to analyze it in detail.

P.S. Black can not move to 15...Qd5 the way I see it. That would be an illegal move.

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this is my move the BQ cant D5 anymore

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
Doesn't ...Qd5 force a Q exchange and win another piece?
Yes, it does. I spoke too soon.

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(ignore this, more failed pgn attempts)

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Originally posted by tim88
this is my move the BQ cant D5 anymore

[pgn]1.c4 b5 2.cxb5 e6 3.e4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bc5 5.h3 d5 6.d4 Bb6 7.e5 Ne4 8. Nxe4 dxe4 9.Ne2 Bb7 10.Be3 a6 11. Ng3 0-0 12.Bc4 Qh4 13.0-0 axb5 14.Bxb5 c6 15.Qd2 cxb5 16.Bg5 e3 17.Qxe3 Qxd4 rfd1[/pgn]
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ok would black play Qxd1?

would be a rook for bishop exchange

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Originally posted by 64squaresofpain
Edit:

ok would black play Qxd1?

would be a rook for bishop exchange