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Chess Life Dec. 2007 mistake?

Chess Life Dec. 2007 mistake?

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White to move.

this position was given as a puzzle in the magazine, and the solutions give Bc6 as the winning move.

here's what they say exactly on the solutions page:
"1.Bc6! threatens 2. Bxd7 and 2. Qxa6. On 1. ... Qxc6 White mates with 2. Qxf8+! Kxf8 3. Re8. Instead Black resigned after 1. ... Bc8 Bxd7"

why not 1. ... Qxa3?

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
[fen]5rk1/p2r1ppp/b2q4/3B4/8/Q3R1P1/PP3P1P/4R1K1 w - - 0 1[/fen]
White to move.

this position was given as a puzzle in the magazine, and the solutions give Bc6 as the winning move.

here's what they say exactly on the solutions page:
"1.Bc6! threatens 2. Bxd7 and 2. Qxa6. On 1. ... Qxc6 White mates with 2. Qxf8+! Kxf8 3. Re8. Instead Black resigned after 1. ... Bc8 Bxd7"

why not 1. ... Qxa3?
Rxa3...too simple to find this

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Originally posted by tomtom232
Rxa3...too simple to find this
Edit: well actually that's pretty much the best move for black is to take the Queen

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Originally posted by Best101
Edit: well actually that's pretty much the best move for black is to take the Queen
no actually Rd8 is the best move in my opinion

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Originally posted by tomtom232
no actually Rd8 is the best move in my opinion
the point is: white can not win (immediately)! CL was wrong!

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
the point is: white can not win (immediately)! CL was wrong!
how were they wrong...any self respecting GM would resign they said that it threatens Bxd7 and Qxa6 and Qxa6 is played or after ...Qxa3 then Rxa3 followed by Rxa6

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Originally posted by tomtom232
how were they wrong...any self respecting GM would resign they said that it threatens Bxd7 and Qxa6 and Qxa6 is played or after ...Qxa3 then Rxa3 followed by Rxa6
Am I saying that they were wrong?
no!
white is winning no matter what.
the problem is that CL failed to offer discussion about Black's best line. that qualifies as a mistake.

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
Am I saying that they were wrong?
no!
white is winning no matter what.
the problem is that CL failed to offer discussion about Black's best line. that qualifies as a mistake.
they said what was threatened and how it went in the game...they don't have to deal with blacks best line unless that line gets rid of the threat

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Originally posted by tomtom232
they said what was threatened and how it went in the game...they don't have to deal with blacks best line unless that line gets rid of the threat
yes they do.
they give the best line of play in every other solution, but they missed the best line in this scenario.

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
yes they do.
they give the best line of play in every other solution, but they missed the best line in this scenario.
Maybe Bc8 is the best line...I said I thought Rd8 was best and Qxa3 clearly isn't the best line.

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
yes they do.
they give the best line of play in every other solution, but they missed the best line in this scenario.
Why don't you sue the USCF? Everyone else seems to be doing it. 😛

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Originally posted by Mad Rook
Why don't you sue the USCF? Everyone else seems to be doing it. 😛
nah, no time.
why would I sue people who let me play in their tournaments and give me these magazine thingies?

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Bc8 isn't the best line...because of Bxd7 ...Qxd7 Re7!
so I don't think it is a "mistake" in the sense that I thought you meant but a mistake in failing to follow routine

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Originally posted by tomtom232
Bc8 isn't the best line
duh

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
nah, no time.
why would I sue people who let me play in their tournaments and give me these magazine thingies?
You just seemed to be getting really worked up over the issue. I thought I'd add a little fuel to the fire, lol.