if you had a rook, knight and 4 pawns left your opponent had just a knight and 4 pawns (6 of the pawns are on the left three rows and the other 2 are on the other side) and you had he chance to take 2 of his pawns (the lone pawn and 1 that is in the bunch) but you would lose your knight, would you take the 2 pawns?
i did because his king was near the 2 lone pawns and i thought i could use my rook to stop his king from getting at the other pawns, and since i had 3 for his 2 pawns with the help of my king i could work around his knight and get at least 1 of the pawns to his side of the borad for a queen.
i would like to know if you would have done the same thing.
Originally posted by trevor33Picture would be nice. Depends how far the pawns are but in general if you can trade down then its good. As for the knight for 2 pawns, if they were pretty far advanced then ya, but if they weren't then no. Usually you can create some threats and pick of pawns without giving anythign to your opponent, especailly if your up a whole rook.
if you had a rook, knight and 4 pawns left your opponent had just a knight and 4 pawns (6 of the pawns are on the left three rows and the other 2 are on the other side) and you had he chance to take 2 of his pawns (the lone pawn and 1 that is in the bunch) but you would lose your knight, would you take the 2 pawns?
i did because his king was near the 2 l ...[text shortened]... is side of the borad for a queen.
i would like to know if you would have done the same thing.
Originally posted by WulebgrDepends on where he will move his king 🙂
In the position below, my opponent played Rd6+. It wins a pawn, but was it a good move?
[fen]8/8/6k1/4Kpp1/3R3p/8/8/8 w - - 0 51[/fen]
Edit: This game was played OTB in 2002.
If Kh5 then rd6+ was bad. If anythign else then it was a good move 🙂
Originally posted by RahimKhow do i insert a picture of the borad? the game has moved on a bit.
Picture would be nice. Depends how far the pawns are but in general if you can trade down then its good. As for the knight for 2 pawns, if they were pretty far advanced then ya, but if they weren't then no. Usually you can create some threats and pick of pawns without giving anythign to your opponent, especailly if your up a whole rook.
Originally posted by trevor33I rather suspected that you were asking about a game in progress, hence my non sequitur. Because, you are still playing this game, the answer about inserting a diagram is that you do not.
how do i insert a picture of the borad? the game has moved on a bit.
RahimK: I played Kh5 after his Rd6+. Why is Rd6+ a bad move? It wins a pawn.
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Originally posted by WulebgrIf white plays Rd3 it leaves black in zugzwang, any king move loses the f pawn and any pawn move weakens blacks position. Also having the rook on the 3rd rank means that the pawns will become fixed on the 4th after say f4. Once this happens white can pick off the pawns.
Thus sayeth Fritz, and its tablebases. Any human analysis?
EDIT: No I can't tell you that it's mate in 30 myself as that's just pointless. I used Fritz to check because I wanted to be sure black didn't have any tricks (rook and pawn endgames are horrible).
Originally posted by XanthosNZThanks Xanthos.
If white plays Rd3 it leaves black in zugzwang, any king move loses the f pawn and any pawn move weakens blacks position. Also having the rook on the 3rd rank means that the pawns will become fixed on the 4th after say f4. Once this happens white can pick off the pawns.
EDIT: No I can't tell you that it's mate in 30 myself as that's just pointless. I us ...[text shortened]... ause I wanted to be sure black didn't have any tricks (rook and pawn endgames are horrible).
After this game was over, I played the game against Crafty a few times, and without the tablebases, Crafty had a terrible time winning with white.
If the black pawns were one square further along, the rook might hope for a draw, and be frustrated. If the white king were removed from the region of battle, the rook would prove no match for three pawns.
Originally posted by WulebgrThe rook is out of position to catch the 2 connected pawns supported by a foward black king.
I rather suspected that you were asking about a game in progress, hence my non sequitur. Because, you are still playing this game, the answer about inserting a diagram is that you [b]do not.
RahimK: I played Kh5 after his Rd6+. Why is Rd6+ a bad move? It wins a pawn.[/b]
It looks like an okay book but from the endgame books i've read, it's a bad move although it would probably be the first move to come to mind.
So did you win that game?