Destroying the queen raid

not so much recently but in my earlier games when I was just learning the queens raid was a problem for me. I would play black my opponents move 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 g6 3. Qxe5+ Qe7 4.Qxh8 do I proceed to Qxe4+ assuming white moves 5.Ne2 I move Qxc2 6. opponent continues with his own raid Qxg8 I move Nc6 7.Na3 Qa4 8. he continues to attack my queen b3 I respond with Qb4 9. Nc2 Qc5 10.Ba3 Qxc2 11. Qxf8 checkmate what did I miss here where did I go wrong

2...g6 is a bad move. Dropping the rook at once. After 2...Nc6 black are just fine.

truly you can see the logic behind my second move

Originally posted by deathbypawn
i do this to place pressure on the queen

Queen raids are often initially successful: if not defended very precisely, they often snap up a pawn or two, especially the e pawn and the b pawn.

I often just let the silly pawns go, count them as gambits, and continue to develop by queen harassment. When you got both knights and bishops developed and are about to castle, and your opponent has only the queen developed, you can usually whip up an attack on the king in the center that will force your opponent to give the material right back, with interest.

the early days full of tons of stupidity

Originally posted by deathbypawn
i do this to place pressure on the queen

so that was you gg

There is a variation of the Latvian where black's queen runs amok while White tries to mate the black king. Here's an example:


[Event "?"]
[Site "cr ICCF Thematic"]
[Date "1992.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jackson J"]
[Black "Downey M"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C40q"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Bc4 fxe4 4.Nxe5 Qg5 5.d4 Qxg2 6.Qh5+ g6 7.Bf7+ Ke7 8.Bg5+ Nf6 9.Qh4 Qxh1+ 10.Ke2 Bg7 11.Nc3 Qf3+ 12.Nxf3 exf3+ 13.Kxf3 Kxf7 14.Qf4 d6 15.Nd5 Bf5 16.Bxf6 Bxf6 17.Nxc7 Nc6 18.Nxa8 Nxd4+ 19.Kg2 Be5 20.Qh6 Nxc2 21.Rd1 Rxa8 22.Qxh7+ Kf6 23.Qh4+ g5 24.Qh6+ Kf7 25.Qh5+ Ke6 26.Qh6+ Bf6 27.Rxd6+ Kxd6 28.Qxf6+ Be6 29.f4 Ne3+ 30.Kf3 Nd5 31.Qe5+ Kd7 32.f5 g4+ 33.Kg3 Bf7 34.Qg7 Ke7 35.Qe5+ Kd7 36.f6 Be6 37.Qd4 b6 38.Qa4+ Kd6 39.Qa6 Nxf6 40.Qa3+ Ke5 41.Qc3+ Kf5 42.Qc2+ Ne4+ 43.Kg2 Rd8 44.Qc7 Rd7 45.Qc6 Rd2+ 46.Kg1 Rxb2 47.Qb7 Ng5 48.Kf1 Rxh2 49.Qg7 g3 50.Qf8+ Kg6 51.Qe8+ Bf7 52.Qe3 Rh1+ 53.Ke2 g2 54.Qd3+ Kh5 55.Qd4 Bc4+ 56.Qxc4 g1=Q 0-1

wow what a game

Most Latvian games are like that. The only rule is: THERE ARE NO RULES!🙄

Originally posted by lloydk
There is a variation of the Latvian where black's queen runs amok while White tries to mate the black king. Here's an example:


[Event "?"]
[Site "cr ICCF Thematic"]
[Date "1992.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jackson J"]
[Black "Downey M"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C40q"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Bc4 fxe4 4.Nxe5 Qg5 5.d4 Qxg2 6.Qh5+ g6 7.Bf ...[text shortened]... 9.Qg7 g3 50.Qf8+ Kg6 51.Qe8+ Bf7 52.Qe3 Rh1+ 53.Ke2 g2 54.Qd3+ Kh5 55.Qd4 Bc4+ 56.Qxc4 g1=Q 0-1