i just finished a game against a player called padad. now i know he is much better than me and i know the game was lost anyway but i think that for the first time i got to a situation that i couldnt prevent check mate next move.
if you see a alternative i could have took tell me please.
shaul
Game 475334
Originally posted by Natural Sciencelisten, after move nineteen he still had his queen and still had his bishop and my knight wasnt on E4... i know i could do alot of stuff to stop check mate BEFORE the end of move 19 but move 20 did i have anything to do?!?!
He can't mate you with just his queen, and there were no other pieces near your king.
Look, you are making this much more difficult than it has to be. You want to know if there's anything you can do on move 20 to stop checkmate? Well there isn't. I gave you an alternative you could have used a move earlier to win a piece back. It's called post-mortem analysis. Playing Ne4 on move 19 would have been your last chance to prolong the game. If you can't see that, or won't even go through the trouble of looking at the move yourself just to see what I'm talking about, then I'm afraid I can't help you anymore.
Originally posted by Natural Scienceno no i understand that i could have won a piece back on move 19 i wish i had your eyes and could have seen that earliear its just that im not a fairly good player and wanted to know if i could do anything the last move because this situation where i get check mate next move without anything to do im not familier to. sorry if i made you tense😕😕
Look, you are making this much more difficult than it has to be. You want to know if there's anything you can do on move 20 to stop checkmate? Well there isn't. I gave you an alternative you could have used a move earlier to win a piece back. It's called post-mortem analysis. Playing Ne4 on move 19 would have been your last chance to prolong ...[text shortened]... e move yourself just to see what I'm talking about, then I'm afraid I can't help you anymore.
Originally posted by Faith No MoreI suppose you mean for the first time that you didn't see it coming?
... but i think that for the first time i got to a situation that i couldnt prevent check mate next move.
if you see a alternative i could have took tell me please.
Game 475334
Because, when a game is not drawn, and you play it until the end, that is checkmate, then this situation has to arise either for you or for your opponent, that is inevitable!
The only move I see to extend the game is to move your queen to h6. But then black takes your queen, and you have the same situation again. So there is nothing you can do.
Adje
Ok, to start, im no master but hear are a few modest dips...
1.You should avoid 1.e4 ..c5, 2.Bc4 because black can then play 2e6 with d5 to follow which means ur bishop has to retreat and black clears both diagonals for his bishops (after all the exchanges).
A better reply is 1.e4 ..c5, Nf3 ..(either d6 or Nc5), 3.d5. The point being that you regain control of d4 while leaving Black with the problem of developing his bishops with his moves rather than urs.
2.On move 13, u played exd5, why not Nxd5? You would have been left with a Knight in a prime place for attack and defense. Black would be forced to move around and find a way to remove it, as it is attacking squares in his half of the board and restricting his movements. Now, as it happens, black could play Ne7, but u could follow up with c4, resulting in you un-doubling ur d-pawns and lumbering black with two issolated pawns (a and c) for u to attack.
Notice how the black knight was able to infultrate ur kingside because you didn't tie it down on move 13 😉
3. On move 15 you played fxe5. There was no need to take this pawn on this move. It was defended, and more importantly, the black e pawn could not advance anyway.
You allowed black to take your bishop with his knight. A bishop is slightly more valuable than a knight (approx 3 pawns compaired to 2.5 pawns). Not only are you giving black the advantage of two bishops verses 2 knights, u are also allowing the pawn shield in front of your king to be destroyed.
A better move would have been 15.Bf3. Notice how this prevents the knight from moving anywhere else in your side of the board.
Your mistake was impatiance, you position was not so bad. NOTICE HOW THESE PROBLEMS WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED IF YOU'D TAKE THE PAWN WITH THE KNIGHT INSTEAD.
4. Move 17. Why did you let black take the pawn??? a3 achieved nothing for you. You should at all times resist the temptation to make random moves. Every move must have purpose.
17.Qf2 was much better. You would have protected the pawn and you would also be massing your forces for some king side action.
5. 18.Re3?? A blunder as im sure u realize.
18.Nce4 (attacking the bishop) ..Be5, 19.Qf2 was a better line....
6. You played 19.Re2 after your blunder. 19.Ne4 would have forked blacks Queen and his bishop. This move would have levelled you in material.
Well there you go. Hope that helps, im sure there is more to learned but as i say, im no master.
Cya😛