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Did I let my opponent off?

Did I let my opponent off?

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In the diagram white to move I played 20.Qxb7 and my opponent just went for a perpetual.



Should i have gone for 20.Qxf8+ then 21.Rxf7+, pick up the bishop with 22.Bxb7? I didn't see a forced win and rejected Qxf8+ but should I have tried it?



Black has Ne2-g3 tricks picking up the a1 rook in the corner.

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I didn't realise you were going to go public on this one. I reckoned I was lucky to have had the drawing resource in the line you played.

However in the line after 22.Bxb7 Ne2+ 23. Kf1 Ng3+ 24.Kf2 (i don't think hxg3 Qh1+ is forced) Nf5+ 25.Kg1 Qg5 (covering d8 and attacking e3) you may have to play Rxf5 and it is still very murky.

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I may be wrong but in the position given after 22. Bb7 why is 22. ... Qe1: 23. Rf1 Ne2: followed by Queen f1 mate not sufficient?: 🙂

Just getting old, failed to see the rook at a1.

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It looks very dangerous for White to go for the win. He has to move his king into the centre (to avoid the perpetual) where it will be susceptible to knight forks and queen checks.

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You let yourself off, otherwise you would have had to drudge on for ages

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I agree with Fat Lady.

One possiblility might be Black capturing the h2 pawn instantly if the king doesnt go back to h1 after ...Ne2+

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I guess the only way to aviod the draw in this position is:
20.Qxf8+ Kxf8 21. Rxf7+ Kg8 (21...Ke8 22.Bxb7 Ne2+ 23.Kf1 Ng3 +-) 22.Bxb7 Ne2+ 23.Kf1 Ng3 and I am not sure if I would like to play whites' position.

It looks ok, but I wouldn't be happy playing this position; especially if white is trying for a win.

Just my humble opinion.

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I would play, it, I hate my queen.

Don't be to attached to it.

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I figured pretty much that its dangerous to go for Qxf8+. I would like those who think white is winning to demonstrate a line that gives white a clear advantage. Its no good saying "white is better", when one cannot demonstrate any lines to victory.

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sometimes, there is nothing to see but the position, we call this, positionnal play,,

Don't search for tactics, there is none.

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Originally posted by CCNoob
I figured pretty much that its dangerous to go for Qxf8+. I would like those who think white is winning to demonstrate a line that gives white a clear advantage. Its no good saying "white is better", when one cannot demonstrate any lines to victory.
I have to agree with AS.
In the position a white advantage is good enough. Is it good enough to play on? That depends obviously on the player.
You obviously saw the line (more or less) and decided it's not worth playing on and you were obviously happy with the draw.

If you want a clear winning line for white (if there is one): best give the position to the metal box and the little fish will give you your answer. 😉

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Originally posted by heinzkat
You let yourself off, otherwise you would have had to drudge on for ages
I am playing CCNoob now, and the game is more work than my other five combined. I hardly think I've had more than one candidate move for each move that has survived scrutiny in the last 15 moves. I've played a bunch of games that were fun but not all that challenging, and how I am getting a workout!

Paul