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When you want learn how to play an instrument, football, basketball, to learn a new foreign language, to be good is some hobby that gives you many moment of joy and happyness, it is so much more easy to achieve good results. The improvement in chess is so slooooooooooow, it is difficult to find the right, constructive way to improve, I am really hard working while having decent IQ, good will to learn and I see results but they aren't as near as fast!

I know that chess is something special and difficult to learn well, I am totally in love with it but it takes so long....

Nothing important I just felt the need to share my unhappiness with you guys :-(

I'll try harder!

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Yes I did.

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Originally posted by ivan2908
When you want learn how to play an instrument, football, basketball, to learn a new foreign language, to be good is some hobby that gives you many moment of joy and happyness, it is so much more easy to achieve good results. The improvement in chess is so slooooooooooow, it is difficult to find the right, constructive way to improve, I am really hard worki ...[text shortened]... g important I just felt the need to share my unhappiness with you guys :-(

I'll try harder!
Learning to play a musical intsrument, a sport or a foreign language requires you to add new things to your memory and/or train your body to perform new actions.

Learning chess requires additional use of the memory too, but it also involves changing the way you perceive things and the way your mind thinks. This is why improvement takes much longer.

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The process of being better in chess is somewhat invisible. Your opponent are also being better in the same pace. Therefore you don't notice it so easily.

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it takes just as much time & work to master a language or an instrument. beginning is easy, getting intermediate takes a couple of years, but after that it's repetition for years to come, and there will still always be people who are much better than you at it.

exactly like with chess.

the rule of thumb is it takes 10 years to become an expert on any field.

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
The process of being better in chess is somewhat invisible. Your opponent are also being better in the same pace. Therefore you don't notice it so easily.
You are absolutely right about that. Now that I watch my rhp games a year ago, I am shocked how bad I played losing from 1000 or less rated players, but if you improve 200-300 points in a year, that is approx. less than one point a day, it is totally invisible.

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Actually, I think it's pretty easy to see progress. I also think it's easy to progress, but I haven't hit a ceiling yet. I'm guessing I'll hit that before I hit 2000.

At least with chess you have a very measurable return on your investment of time. You either keep winning, or you keep losing. If you lose, you should be able to know why. If you win, you should be able to know why as well. This is in contrast to team sports where the effort of a single person is often obscure.

Also consider that most other hobbies require a lot more physical effort. With chess, you can study literally anywhere, and with correspondence chess you can almost play from anywhere.

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I'm currently on the toilet with a laptop and a burger.

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I've been doing better. At least as far as dropping pieces. Pawns are another story. Something I need to improve is dropping the bomb. Now if you'll excuse me I have to drop the browns off at the super bowl.

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But you can keep a perspective on chess too. I am now 23 years old and I will probably play it when I am 80+ too, so it is good for a long time =) And in that perspective, I think improvement is quite fast 😉

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I would say with just about anything you dedicate yourself to, you become above average very quickly. It is when you delve into that arena of experts that you find much harder competition.

We are on a site which people who like chess and the majority are already above average chess playing ability than the lay person. Therefore it is the perception that your learning is somewhat slower, even though you are way ahead of a beginner.

You would find the same with playing a musical instrument. With a few months of practice you can become a lot better than the average person pretty quickly. When you meet other people who are experts with that instrument, you will be so far behind and appear like your progress is very slow.

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