Originally posted by tim88Ask RJ HINDS, he'll show you how on the game analysis board.
Thats what you strong players tell me. But if this is true why do chess engines do it? explain
-m.
Jokes aside, you ought not to move her until you have established a good defence/attack situ. Why? 1. Cos if you're not in control, and you bring her out early then she's likely to be attacked until she has no home to run to, and you'll be opening your back lines like there's no tomorrow.
2. Work on 1 first. 😉
09 Sep 12
Originally posted by tim88When I first began play and got checkmated with the scholars mate. I tried it out against other opponents and sometimes it worked. Later, I moved the queen out on my 2nd move and many times my opponents would forget about protecting the king pawn and attack my queen with the knight or, better for me, the knight pawn. So sometimes it works, if you are playing aganist beginning players. But I would agree that if you move your queen out within the first 3 moves that you have missed a better move, unless your opponent has blundered.
Thats what you strong players tell me. But if this is true why do chess engines do it? explain
The post that was quoted here has been removedA chess engine is programmed by a human, who does not always program the computer to make the best move. In your example, 2.Qe2 is not the best move, but it does not harm white because of the pawn structure in the French defense and when black plays the normal 2...d5, then 3. exd5 requires black, in recapturing the pawn, to move his queen out early where it can be attacked with 4.Nc3.
Some chess players prefer an opening variation that has not been extensively analyzed, but still give about equal winning chances. It is usually considered an advantage to play a variation that you know well and perhaps your opponent is not prepared for. However, it is not ignorance on the part of the masters that give the general advice not to develop the queen too early.
The post that was quoted here has been removedI am sorry for my misunderstanding of what you said or did not say in your post. But on the other hand, I did not say I was a commentor on chess that you should take seriously; and I do not evaluate positions in centipawns. I use the full point system of material evaluation that is recommended by the majority of masters. You are right that I am just an average club player that has read a few chess books and need to read a lot more to even approach master level.
Are you now claiming to be a commentor on chess that should be taken seriously and that RJHinds' comments are not worthy of any notice and should be viewed with contempt?
10 Sep 12
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Originally posted by maxlangeThis is one of the openings I was talking about earlier that I used to try against some players of lesser strength in hopes of getting an early win a little ove 30 years ago. But you see here that a player rated over 300 points less was able to get a draw against a 2800 player who used this early queen opening.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1339053
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P.S. Excuse me, Nakamura was only rated over 2600 at that time, so the difference in ratings was only a little over 100 points instead of 300.
11 Sep 12
Originally posted by RJHindsThe interesting part (if I recall correctly) is he only stopped playing it after the 2...Nf6 gambit started to dent white.
This is one of the openings I was talking about earlier that I used to try against some players of lesser strength in hopes of getting an early win a little ove 30 years ago. But you see here that a player rated over 300 points less was able to get a draw against a 2800 player who used this early queen opening.
P.S. Excuse me, Nakamura was only rated o ...[text shortened]... 600 at that time, so the difference in ratings was only a little over 100 points instead of 300.
I guess this early queen move is just to upset the opponent ala Karpov-Miles 1...a6
A note I see in "Chess Openings for Black, Explained" (Alburt,Dzindzi, Perelshteyn) calls 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Qe7 "offbeat but sound" . . . Ive never seen that used before.
11 Sep 12
Originally posted by maxlange1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 is called the Patzer Opening for a reason. But I have won some games with it and even against that 2. Nf6 gambit. But of course I was playing other weak players (Patzers) myself.
The interesting part (if I recall correctly) is he only stopped playing it after the 2...Nf6 gambit started to dent white.
I guess this early queen move is just to upset the opponent ala Karpov-Miles 1...a6
A note I see in "Chess Openings for Black, Explained" (Alburt,Dzindzi, Perelshteyn) calls 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Qe7 "offbeat but sound" . . . Ive never seen that used before.
1.e4 e5 2. Qe7 is called the Gunderan Defense. No one has ever played that one against me. But I think White should get out of the opening just fine by continuing with normal developement. Some chess players think it may have good possibilities. Below is a link to a video about it:
The post that was quoted here has been removedFat Lady has not played a game on RHP in over 2 years. It is not likely that a rating increase will result from not playing; after all, we all start out at P1200. Perhaps Fat Lady does not put as much effort into the RHP games that I do since there seems to be a lack of interest on the part of Fat Lady. But I don't care about Fat Lady anyway, you are the only one I'm interested in, sweetheart. 😏
P.S. By the way, I'm just a redneck living in Georgia, now.