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  1. Standard member O Artem O
    ParTizan
    18 Oct '08 01:22
    hi all
    i was playing this game here and i thought i could of won it but ended in a draw then i looked in the book and i think it was a theoretical draw


    what about starting from move 53 can i win? or from move 61 or both draws

    tnx everyone
  2. 18 Oct '08 01:40 / 1 edit
    I would have thought that 64. Kg7 would have won for you. You did the right thing immediately before this by blocking his rook and allowing your king to hide behind your rook, but then you didn't actually move your king to allow your pawn to queen!
  3. Standard member O Artem O
    ParTizan
    18 Oct '08 01:44
    are u talking about going Kg8? if so he can just go Rf8 and check for the draw right?
  4. 18 Oct '08 01:57 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by O Artem O
    are u talking about going Kg8? if so he can just go Rf8 and check for the draw right?
    ...Rf8+ is met by Kxf8
  5. 18 Oct '08 02:14
    Originally posted by O Artem O
    are u talking about going Kg8? if so he can just go Rf8 and check for the draw right?
    If I'd meant Kg8 I'd have said Kg8.

    64. Kg7 Ke7
    65. h7 Rf7+
    66. Kh6 Rf8
    67. Rg8 resigns
  6. Standard member O Artem O
    ParTizan
    18 Oct '08 02:47
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    If I'd meant Kg8 I'd have said Kg8.

    64. Kg7 Ke7
    65. h7 Rf7+
    66. Kh6 Rf8
    67. Rg8 resigns
    ow i see tnx a lot, and the end position is a theoretical draw then?
  7. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    18 Oct '08 04:32
    Originally posted by O Artem O
    hi all
    i was playing this game here and i thought i could of won it but ended in a draw then i looked in the book and i think it was a theoretical draw
    [pgn][Event "October 2008 Octet I 1475-1500"]
    [Site "http://www.timeforchess.com"]
    [Date "2008.10.08"]
    [Round "1"]
    [White "O Artem O"]
    [Black "berinja"]
    [WhiteRating "1558"]
    [BlackRating "1324"]
    ...[text shortened]... ng from move 53 can i win? or from move 61 or both draws

    tnx everyone
    You could have won as late as move 73. 73.Rg7!
  8. 18 Oct '08 07:14
    Originally posted by O Artem O
    ow i see tnx a lot, and the end position is a theoretical draw then?
    Yes, his king has got too close.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucena_position#Rook_pawn

    I would recommend setting up various Lucena positions and playing them against an engine, you'll soon get the idea. Read the Wikipedia entry first, but don't worry if it's a little unclear. Practice makes perfect!
  9. 18 Oct '08 12:46 / 1 edit


    Shredder has a win in 29 from this position. First move was h5.

    Queened in 15 moves.
  10. Standard member O Artem O
    ParTizan
    18 Oct '08 15:32
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    Yes, his king has got too close.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucena_position#Rook_pawn

    I would recommend setting up various Lucena positions and playing them against an engine, you'll soon get the idea. Read the Wikipedia entry first, but don't worry if it's a little unclear. Practice makes perfect!
    yea i know about them, i have the 12 theoretical rook vs rook and pawn positions in a book, used to know them but now forgot some of them well tnx all