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Rank the following endgame scenarios in order from the position you would most want to play to the position you would least want to play. Assume you would play the side with the material advantage:

Rook vs. Knight
Rook vs. Bishop
Two Bishops vs. Rook
Two Knights vs. Rook
Bishop + Knight vs. Rook

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I would take my rook against a bishop because there would always be 32 safe squares to put it on. From them the rook could watch over his own pawn or blockade the enemy's.

Against the rook give me the 2 bishops. In the endgame if I need to sweep across the board in 1 move the knight won't help me yet I can still get to all squares with my 2 bishops. They would also have the potential for a pin/skewer on any move, something my opponent might miss.

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Without knowing anything about the pawn structure the advantage breaks down like this:

Two Bishops vs. Rook
Rook vs. Knight
Rook vs. Bishop
Bishop + Knight vs. Rook
Two Knights vs. Rook

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Originally posted by wittywonka
Rank the following endgame scenarios in order from the position you would most want to play to the position you would least want to play. Assume you would play the side with the material advantage:

Rook vs. Knight
Rook vs. Bishop
Two Bishops vs. Rook
Two Knights vs. Rook
Bishop + Knight vs. Rook
Disregarding position. Mine will be in this order:

Rook vs. Knight
Rook vs. Bishop
Two Bishops vs. Rook
Bishop + Knight vs. Rook
Two Knights vs. Rook

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Originally posted by wittywonka
Rank the following endgame scenarios in order from the position you would most want to play to the position you would least want to play. Assume you would play the side with the material advantage:

Rook vs. Knight
Rook vs. Bishop
Two Bishops vs. Rook
Two Knights vs. Rook
Bishop + Knight vs. Rook
What about the pawns?

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Originally posted by Northern Lad
What about the pawns?
Do you mean how many does each player have, or what position are they in?

I don't really want to give an arbitrary number. But, if it would help, I'll say that both players have the same number of pawns, with each player having at least thee pawns.

Assume the position would be dead-drawn equal if only the pawns and kings were on the board.

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My personal preference (again, ignoring positional conditions) would probably be:

1. Rook vs. Knight
2. Bishop + Knight vs. Rook
3. Two Bishops vs. Rook
4. Rook vs. Bishop
5. Two Knights vs. Rook

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Originally posted by wittywonka
Do you mean how many does each player have, or what position are they in?

I don't really want to give an arbitrary number. But, if it would help, I'll say that both players have the same number of pawns, with each player having at least thee pawns.

Assume the position would be dead-drawn equal if only the pawns and kings were on the board.
It would also make a big difference whether there were pawns on both sides of the board. For example, assuming same number of pawns, 2B v R with pawns on both sides of the board will almost certainly be winning, but if the pawns are only on one side of the board, it's probably a draw.

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Originally posted by wittywonka
My personal preference (again, ignoring positional conditions) would probably be:

1. Rook vs. Knight
2. Bishop + Knight vs. Rook
3. Two Bishops vs. Rook
4. Rook vs. Bishop
5. Two Knights vs. Rook
Generally speaking 2B v R is more favourable than B+N v R. The exception would be a blocked position or where the knight was particularly strong.

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Originally posted by Northern Lad
It would also make a big difference whether there were pawns on both sides of the board. For example, assuming same number of pawns, 2B v R with pawns on both sides of the board will almost certainly be winning, but if the pawns are only on one side of the board, it's probably a draw.
I knew someone would bring that up eventually... 😉



Use this as the base position.

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Originally posted by wittywonka
Rank the following endgame scenarios in order from the position you would most want to play to the position you would least want to play. Assume you would play the side with the material advantage:

Rook vs. Knight
Rook vs. Bishop
Two Bishops vs. Rook
Two Knights vs. Rook
Bishop + Knight vs. Rook
You missed out the Q v R endgame which I used to think was difficult but not after watching the video on chesslectures.com. Previoulsy i used to keep checking the king which is not the way to get the rook, so I would not want a rook against a queen as high on my list

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Originally posted by wittywonka
Rank the following endgame scenarios in order from the position you would most want to play to the position you would least want to play. Assume you would play the side with the material advantage:

Rook vs. Knight
Rook vs. Bishop
Two Bishops vs. Rook
Two Knights vs. Rook
Bishop + Knight vs. Rook
Why? Aren't they all just drawn?

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Originally posted by wittywonka
I knew someone would bring that up eventually... 😉

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Use this as the base position.
That position is just silly; such a pawn structure would never occur in an endgame, since most players move their centre pawns in the opening.

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I just would rather play rook vs bishop than vs knight. but I agree with the rest of your list

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Originally posted by monteirof
I just would rather play rook vs bishop than vs knight. but I agree with the rest of your list
Generally speaking a rook is stronger against a knight than a bishop in an endgame.