Originally posted by Korch "Since the early 1990s, the English Attack [b](6.Be3 followed by f2-f3, g2-g4, Qd2 and 0-0-0 in some order) has become extremely popular and has been intensively analysed,"
From here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Defence,_Najdorf_Variation
Also Kasparov in his book I`ve recommended to you have clearly stated that English attack can`t be separated from castling queen side.
So you failed again 🙂[/b]
Sorry, wiki and Kaspy don't override what GMs actually play.
Originally posted by no1marauder Sorry, wiki and Kaspy don't override what GMs actually play.
I`ll tell you a secret - If White after 6.Be3 castle king side its not called English attack anymore. And you should not blindly trust chessgames.com as names of their openings/opening lines are based on these indexes which sometimes leads to stupid designations like this one.
For example today hardly anyone top GM would use 6.Bg5 and 7.f4 (played in Fischer-Spassky match) because after 7...Qb6 it has been analysed so much that its estabilished the best moves for both sides leading to draw. Here is example.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1290137
It's very interesting that Fischer played the now standard line against the English Attack at least until move 12 (and even then b5 is the second most popular choice). This kinda refutes AGAIN your amusing notion that Fischer would have no idea what to do against the English Attack.
Originally posted by no1marauder Then only a retard would say this:
For example today hardly [b]anyone top GM would use 6.Bg5 and 7.f4 (played in Fischer-Spassky match) because after 7...Qb6 it has been analysed so much that its estabilished the best moves for both sides leading to draw. Here is example.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1290137
GAIN your amusing notion that Fischer would have no idea what to do against the English Attack.[/b]
Word hardly - so only retard will not understand that it`s more guess 😉
It's very interesting that Fischer played the now standard line against the English Attack at least until move 12 (and even then b5 is the second most popular choice). This kinda refutes AGAIN your amusing notion that Fischer would have no idea what to do against the English Attack.
It`s very interesting if you think that in modern opening theory finishes after 12 moves (to say nothing about assumption that the most popular is always the best) 😀
Originally posted by Korch I`ll tell you a secret - If White after 6.Be3 castle king side its not called English attack anymore. And you should not blindly trust chessgames.com as names of their openings/opening lines are based on these indexes which sometimes leads to stupid designations like this one.
As usual, you are wrong. Watson in Mastering the Chess Openings Vol I discusses an English Attack with king side castling on page 213 citing to this Anand-Leko game in 2006: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1387431
Originally posted by Korch Word [b]hardly - so only retard will not understand that it`s more guess 😉
[/b]It's very interesting that Fischer played the now standard line against the English Attack at least until move 12 (and even then b5 is the second most popular choice). This kinda refutes AGAIN your amusing notion that Fischer would have no idea what to do against the English ...[text shortened]... es after 12 moves (to say nothing about assumption that the most popular is always the best) 😀[/b]
You really are a dickhead. In a minute's search, I was able to find games within the last two years from two of the top 12 players in the world playing an opening that YOU claimed "hardly anyone [sic] top GM would play". Define what a "top GM" is and I'll bet you I can find quite a few more examples. You screwed up; admit it.
Originally posted by Fat Lady This thread is growing faster than I can read it.
Has this article been posted yet?
http://gambit.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/are-todays-top-players-better-than-20-years-ago-not-necessarily/
That's because Korch between his ten year old type insults, keeps making ridiculous claims that must be refuted by something he has little knowledge of - FACTS.
Originally posted by no1marauder As usual, you are wrong. Watson in Mastering the Chess Openings Vol I discusses an English Attack with king side castling on page 213 citing to this Anand-Leko game in 2006: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1387431
I already know that I`m the same retard as Kasparov 😀
To be serious - it seems to be no consensus amongst players to call 6.Be3 with castling kingside English attack or not.
Originally posted by no1marauder You really are a dickhead. In a minute's search, I was able to find games within the last two years from two of the top 12 players in the world playing an opening that YOU claimed "hardly anyone [sic] top GM would play". Define what a "top GM" is and I'll bet you I can find quite a few more examples. You screwed up; admit it.
Relax boy. Otherwise I will have to remind all the rest your stupid claims and my questions which you did ignore 🙂
Fischer-Spassky 1972 Fritz 11 analysis
15 Jan '09 00:00
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