1. e4
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    21 May '09 01:371 edit
    I'm working my way Chess School 3 the manuel of combinations.

    It's has a cover that makes you think this is a child's book.
    So you might easily dismiss it as such at a bookstall.

    see review and cover pic:

    http://www.iamcoach.com/chess/Products/Review/ManChess3.htm

    It's very good and some them are real stinkers.
    I recall this one from the 'easy' section which I think fits in with this thread.

    Black to play. It's Karaklajic - Beli 1957.



    I saw an idea (1...f6) but dismissed it 'cos it was a trap.
    2.Qxe7 Qc8 traps the Queen.
    White can play 2.Qe6+ Rf7 forced.

    And I thought 1...Qc8 is the same trap without the 2.Qe6+

    But that was the answer 1...Qc8 and if 2.Qxe7 f6 traps the Queen.

    I felt a bit miffed at this as all the others I had tried have forcing lines.
    White is not forced to play 2.Qxe7.
    Infact in the game White saw the trap and played 2.Qxc8 and the game was drawn.

    (that's how miffed I was - I actually dug out the original game)

    It's a cute trap but should unforced traps be in a book of this nature?

    And about an hour later when I was mid-solving another one, it hit me.

    Black is a pawn up, getting the Queens off is a good move.
    It's not a trap. (or is it?).

    As I said before - this is a good book and I'm really into it.

    Books 1 and 2 are meant to be easier and are for lower graded players
    but if the examples are as well chosen as this book then I bet they
    are worth studying. Anybody got them?

    By the way. If you should get this book Puizzle No.27 is White to
    play and not Black, as it states in the book.

    I was lucky here because something 'twigged'.
    Perhaps it was the Knight and pawns pattern.
    It's from a study I had seen before and they are always White to play.
    Also Black to play wins easily and ugly with Qh1+

    White to play and draw. (the book states, Black to play and draw)



    (this is all forced - no traps here.)

    Edit: Cimon & Korch the same.....Hmmmm.

    I received an email recently from Korch, he is till updating his site
    and it is well worth a visit.

    http://korch.blogspot.com/

    Let us look at the evidence:

    Korch's last post was on the 27th March - Cimon joined on the 12th April.

    Korch has 5 letters, Cimon has 5 letters.

    Hmmmm......
  2. Standard memberCimon
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    21 May '09 07:07
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    Of course it's Korch! You can't come back with a new ID and then use a word like "demagogy" and expect people not to notice!
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=demagogy+site%3Aredhotpawn.com
    Dear Fat Lady

    I`m sorry to disappoint you, but you`re wrong. In link you have given we can see that there are at least several persons using this word in forums 🙂
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    21 May '09 07:28
    Originally posted by Cimon
    Dear Fat Lady

    I`m sorry to disappoint you, but you`re wrong. In link you have given we can see that there are at least several persons using this word in forums 🙂
    My apologies. I remembered Korch using this word and so Googled it when I spotted it in your message as well. I only looked at the first couple of hits and when they were by Korch I jumped to the wrong conclusion.
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    21 May '09 07:433 edits
    Originally posted by greenpawn34

    [fen]3rkr2/p5pp/2p2q2/1pb1p3/3nQ3/1PP5/P2P1PPP/RNB2RK1 b - - 0 18[/fen]

    It's no good dropping it into a box 'cos boxes do not
    play or show human traps. (yet).
    No good dropping it in a box?


    Haha, we shall see.

    Drop:


    In this position Rybka thinks (@14-ply) 1...Qf5 = -.88, 1...Qf4 = -.54, and 1...a5 (3rd choice!) = +.27.

    So Rybka thinks 1...a5! isn't too bad. It's objectively not best, but even Topalov plays the Cochrane gambit sometimes(Rybka doesn't like it too much, but would you want to be sitting across from Toppy when he plays Nxf7?)!

    And what about white's replies to 1...a5?

    Rybka @ 13-ply gives 2.cxd4 = +.45 (Rybka ain't afraid of no ghosts), 2.Ba3 = +.45, and the natural human move 2.Kh1 (3rd choice!) = +.10.


    So (hypothetically) I set a trap with 1...a5, Cimon plays 2.Kh1 and the game is still roughly equal, but I got to set a trap and he had to dodge one. I'd definitely feel good about my game. And next time I'm up by almost 9/10ths of a pawn I'll set another trap that if he dodges will make the game roughly equal again because I'd rather trade my advantage in for traps than grind down a 152-move pawn up rook ending that really is just a draw. 😛
  5. e4
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    21 May '09 10:35
    Quote:
    "I'll set another trap...."

    That's the spirit - if the first one don't get them, the 2nd one will,
    if not, then the third, the fourth, the fifth....
    ...so what if you lose, you have had fun setting traps.

    Sounds like you play chess for the sheer enjoyment of playing chess.
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    21 May '09 10:57
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Quote:
    "I'll set another trap...."
    Yes, accumulating small advantages is for lily-livered people; accumulating the amount of traps your opponent has to dodge - that's how the real chess bullies play. 😉
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    21 May '09 13:26
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    My apologies. I remembered Korch using this word and so Googled it when I spotted it in your message as well. I only looked at the first couple of hits and when they were by Korch I jumped to the wrong conclusion.
    Meh...
    It's gotta be Korch.
    Same grammatical style, posts that are often argumentative (but knowledgeable) in nature, posting their blitz victories in Thread 77968
  8. Standard memberCimon
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    21 May '09 14:49
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    Meh...
    It's gotta be Korch.
    Same grammatical style, posts that are often argumentative (but knowledgeable) in nature, posting their blitz victories in Thread 77968
    Why should I bother to argue with your imagination?
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