20 Jul 13
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Originally posted by KneeCapsI like 12...Nxe4 for black, stealing a key center pawn and removing the f5 outpost.
A quick game. Only 33 moves. I come up with a bad idea. My opponent
comes up with a worse idea. Added some light notes. In the end, my unsound
play is rewarded by my opponent's mistakes. All in good fun.
I'm white
[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ {Anything other than 2...d6 and I play an open sicilian with 3.d4} Nd7 4. O-O Ngf6 5. Re1 a6 6. Bf1 {Firs nd the non-forcing move in a combo} Kf8 31. Qxe7+ Kg7 32. Qxf7+ Kh6 33. Qxh5# [/pgn]
But if that is too risky for some reason, black could play simply ...Nf8 and chop the N if it goes to f5.
20 Jul 13
Originally posted by KneeCapsYour comment: Didn't spend too much time time thinking about this. Just gambling that a strong knight on f5 and a king stuck in the center is worth my bishop.
A quick game. Only 33 moves. I come up with a bad idea. My opponent
comes up with a worse idea. Added some light notes. In the end, my unsound
play is rewarded by my opponent's mistakes. All in good fun.
I'm white
[pgn]1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ {Anything other than 2...d6 and I play an open sicilian with 3.d4} Nd7 4. O-O Ngf6 5. Re1 a6 6. Bf1 {Firs ...[text shortened]... nd the non-forcing move in a combo} Kf8 31. Qxe7+ Kg7 32. Qxf7+ Kh6 33. Qxh5# [/pgn]
These trade-offs of "position verses material" are very difficult for me to judge. Your gamble paid off this time, but have you put enough thought into it now to see if you could find a better way?
The Instructor
20 Jul 13
Originally posted by rookorbycrookIf 6.Bc4 then 6...b5 drives the Bishop back to f1 anyway with a gain of tempo. If instead 7.Bd5 Nxd5 looks good for Black to me. The only good alternative for White was 6.Bxd7+.
maybe instead of
taking the bishop back to f1 maybe c4 seems pointless you playing a pin just to bring it all back in at least its still hounding the f7 square 🙂
The Instructor
21 Jul 13
Originally posted by SwissGambitI was dreading 12,,,Nxe4. It wasn't until after I played Nxh4 that I saw the
I like 12...Nxe4 for black, stealing a key center pawn and removing the f5 outpost.
But if that is too risky for some reason, black could play simply ...Nf8 and chop the N if it goes to f5.
possibility of that move though. Too late by then. Just crossed my fingers
and hoped black wouldn't think of it.
21 Jul 13
Originally posted by rookorbycrookI agree. It seems weird but it is theory. I've had chances to play that move
maybe instead of
taking the bishop back to f1 maybe c4 seems pointless you playing a pin just to bring it all back in at least its still hounding the f7 square 🙂
in other games but never did. Since this was a meaningless fun game, I
decided to give it a try.
21 Jul 13
Originally posted by RJHindsLetting my bishop go was a bad move. It was nothing I would have played
Your comment: [b]Didn't spend too much time time thinking about this. Just gambling that a strong knight on f5 and a king stuck in the center is worth my bishop.
These trade-offs of "position verses material" are very difficult for me to judge. Your gamble paid off this time, but have you put enough thought into it now to see if you could find a better way?
The Instructor[/b]
in a serious game. This was for fun. Sac a piece, create some chances and
see if black can defend correctly. Black faltered so I won this one.