1. e4
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    26 Feb '10 05:15
    Is that with Black playing Rxc3? Please show it.
  2. Standard memberExuma
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    26 Feb '10 06:55
    Originally posted by clandarkfire
    Interestingly, fritz thinks white has a mate in 8 after Ne4
    Sorry - from where in the game?
  3. Standard memberclandarkfire
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    26 Feb '10 07:043 edits


    Edit - copied and pasted GP's FEN, but it doesn't like it for some reaon.
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    26 Feb '10 07:17
    Originally posted by clandarkfire
    [pgn][FEN "3q1rk1/pp1bppbp/3p1np1/8/2rNP1P1/2N1BP2/PPPQ4/2KR3R w - - 0 1"]
    [SetUp "1"]

    1. Bh6 Nxe4 2. Qe3 Nf6 3. Bxg7 Kxg7 4. Qh6+ Kh8 5. Ne4 Qc8 6.Nxf6 Rxc2 7.Nxc7 Qxc2 8.Kxc2 Rc8+ 9.Kb1 Bf5+ 10.gxf5 Rb1+ 11.Rxb1 exf6 12.Qxh7#[/pgn]

    Edit - copied and pasted GP's FEN, but it doesn't like it for some reaon.
    You used pgn tags instead of fen tags.
  5. Standard memberExuma
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    26 Feb '10 07:20
    Originally posted by clandarkfire
    [pgn][FEN "3q1rk1/pp1bppbp/3p1np1/8/2rNP1P1/2N1BP2/PPPQ4/2KR3R w - - 0 1"]
    [SetUp "1"]

    1. Bh6 Nxe4 2. Qe3 Nf6 3. Bxg7 Kxg7 4. Qh6+ Kh8 5. Ne4 Qc8 6.Nxf6 Rxc2 7.Nxc7 Qxc2 8.Kxc2 Rc8+ 9.Kb1 Bf5+ 10.gxf5 Rb1+ 11.Rxb1 exf6 12.Qxh7#[/pgn]

    Edit - copied and pasted GP's FEN, but it doesn't like it for some reaon.
    This is still making me laugh

  6. Standard memberclandarkfire
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    26 Feb '10 20:44
    Originally posted by Exuma
    This is still making me laugh

    [fen]"3q1rk1/pp1bppbp/3p1np1/8/2rNP1P1/2N1BP2/PPPQ4/2KR3R w - - 0 1"[/fen]
    ???
  7. Standard memberExuma
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    26 Feb '10 21:14
    Originally posted by clandarkfire
    ???
    Sorry clandarkfire - I was following tomtoms advice and just replaced the pgn tags with fen tags - that was the fen diagram that appeared.
  8. Standard memberclandarkfire
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    26 Feb '10 21:17
    Originally posted by Exuma
    Sorry clandarkfire - I was following tomtoms advice and just replaced the pgn tags with fen tags - that was the fen diagram that appeared.
    Wow, thats weird. You would think it would just be the usual "invalid fen".
  9. Pale Blue Dot
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    26 Feb '10 21:40
    Originally posted by clandarkfire
    [pgn][FEN "3q1rk1/pp1bppbp/3p1np1/8/2rNP1P1/2N1BP2/PPPQ4/2KR3R w - - 0 1"]
    [SetUp "1"]

    1. Bh6 Nxe4 2. Qe3 Nf6 3. Bxg7 Kxg7 4. Qh6+ Kh8 5. Ne4 Qc8 6.Nxf6 Rxc2 7.Nxc7 Qxc2 8.Kxc2 Rc8+ 9.Kb1 Bf5+ 10.gxf5 Rb1+ 11.Rxb1 exf6 12.Qxh7#[/pgn]

    Edit - copied and pasted GP's FEN, but it doesn't like it for some reaon.
  10. Standard memberExuma
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    26 Feb '10 21:49
    Ah - so the Nc3 is not there to be taken by the rook in this variation. And its an easier mate in 8 to have a chance of spotting since most of the moves are forced checks by black to stop the mate in 1.
  11. Standard memberclandarkfire
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    26 Feb '10 22:05
    Yeah, mate in 8 is a bit misleading, it's really just a mate in three, because noone is really going to bother sacing all those pieces.
  12. e4
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    26 Feb '10 23:31
    Hi

    Actually with Rxc3 it was a mainline for a while.

    This postion.



    is discussed on page 65 of the Yugoslav Attack by Miles & Moscow.

    They look at 21.g5 and 21.Rh2.

    They don't look at the Nf5 idea promoting someone to write that perhaps
    Miles saw it and was saving it up for himself.

    This is the line with the pretty finish.
    (Black must play Bxf5 instead of Rg8)

  13. Standard memberExuma
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    27 Feb '10 08:22
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi

    Actually with Rxc3 it was a mainline for a while.

    This postion.

    [fen]3q1r1k/pp1bpp1p/3p1npQ/8/3N2P1/2P2P2/P1P5/2KR3R w - - 0 6[/fen]

    is discussed on page 65 of the Yugoslav Attack by Miles & Moscow.

    They look at 21.g5 and 21.Rh2.

    They don't look at the Nf5 idea promoting someone to write that perhaps
    Miles saw it and was saving it ...[text shortened]... xc3 3. bxc3 Nf6 4. Bxg7 Kxg7 5. Qh6+ Kh8 6. Nf5 Rg8 7.Qxh7+ Nxh7 8. Rxh7+ Kxh7 9. Rh1[/pgn]
    That is a pretty mate!

    You said - (Black must play Bxf5 instead of Rg8)

    Doesn't Bxf5 lead to g5 and mate anyway as in other lines, or am I missing the point and it was just the fantastic double sac you were pointing out.
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