Messed up the title. It should say Fun Game. 😵
What do you think of this game? Game 3814744
Originally posted by Dutch DefenseNice mate. It seemed to me that there was a little bit of unneccesary trading on both sides but the game was well played.
Messed up the title. It should say fun game. 😵
What do you think of this game? Game 3814744
Originally posted by Fat LadyI'm really not one to say anything to someone of your rating but isn't either move perfectly acceptable?
Strange that you played the bishop to e7, it's much better on d6 in the Dutch Stonewall.
Edit - Just ran it through fritz and it was judged to be about 2/5ths of a pawn better to play Be7, though of course that's not saying much as engines aren't so great at openings.
Either way I'd personally say Be7 is just as good.
you used the white bishop too much. towards the game yes you did have good play but Bd7 then Be8 just to play Bd7 again was just nonesense. Nd7 should have been played before moving the bishop. after all his pawns made him a tall pawn for quiet a while. develope pieces off the back rank, in the opening don't move pieces more than once unless needed. those were not needed.
Also, after 15.c5 I would have kept that bishop on and re-activated on c7 (via a5).
I think White needed to play f3 at some stage after move 15.
Your plan of 22....e5 to get the bishop into the attack was interesting. I probably would have played 22....Rf3 and then brought the other rook over.
Originally posted by ih8sensBe7 is fine in some variations of the Dutch, but in the Stonewall the whole idea is to attack White on the kingside. The bishop on d6 supports this much better.
I'm really not one to say anything to someone of your rating but isn't either move perfectly acceptable?
Edit - Just ran it through fritz and it was judged to be about 2/5ths of a pawn better to play Be7, though of course that's not saying much as engines aren't so great at openings.
Either way I'd personally say Be7 is just as good.
[Edit] Obviously Black should move the bishop to d6 after he has played d5.
Originally posted by Fat LadyOkay that makes sense then.
Be7 is fine in some variations of the Dutch, but in the Stonewall the whole idea is to attack White on the kingside. The bishop on d6 supports this much better.
[Edit] Obviously Black should move the bishop to d6 after he has played d5.
Originally posted by kmac27I agree that the bishop on c8 is usually best left where it is for a while - sometimes the whole game if Black's attack works as intended! Nigel Short tried playing b6 (without playing c6) to get the bishop out that way, but it wasn't very successful.
you used the white bishop too much. towards the game yes you did have good play but Bd7 then Be8 just to play Bd7 again was just nonesense. Nd7 should have been played before moving the bishop. after all his pawns made him a tall pawn for quiet a while. develope pieces off the back rank, in the opening don't move pieces more than once unless needed. those were not needed.