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  1. 14 Sep '08 05:16
    Anyone care to pgn some of their grunfeld games? I wish to study some games against varying talent levels.us Thanks
  2. 14 Sep '08 07:03
    Originally posted by Kencorp
    Anyone care to pgn some of their grunfeld games? I wish to study some games against varying talent levels.us Thanks
    I plan on learning that one...along with the Budapest. Perhaps after the Non-sub tourny clears up, then we can play a couple practice games
  3. 14 Sep '08 11:11 / 1 edit
    I can put my hand on my heart and say I do not know any
    theory at all about the Grunfeld.
    I know the spirit of the opening (attack and undermine d4)
    and that is all.

    I can recall one note from Euwe saying the white fianchetto is harmless
    against the Grunfeld.

    So after 5.g3 I played 5...d5 and laid into the d-pawn.
    I then went for traps and I think if White does not play 17.Ka4 then
    all I have is a good position, nothing more.
    Once I found the Rook lift 19...Rd6 I knew I was going to pick up
    a piece. (I love Rook lifts).

    I then skittled through the game and towards the end I missed a mate
    (22...Be6+) seeing only winning the unprotected piece.
    No excuse for that.



    If I was a 1.d4 player i would play an anti-Grunfeld line. It's easy
    for Black to find the moves once you know the theme of the opening.
    I'd play the Grunfeld more often but I love the KID & Benoni/Benko.

    You will have fun with the Budpest, if you get to play it.

    "1.d4 2.Nf3 is the antidote to all gambits." - Kasparov.

    The good news is you can then enter a KID without worrying about
    any of the f3 or f4 variations.
  4. 14 Sep '08 13:28
    Originally posted by Kencorp
    Anyone care to pgn some of their grunfeld games? I wish to study some games against varying talent levels.us Thanks
    lol you typed that on the Wii didn't you? Sometimes people's sentences ends with .us sometimes.
  5. 14 Sep '08 15:57
    Yes I did type it on the wii. My computer broke and my only internet access is through the wii. Its the main reason I ended up at Rhp because it is compatable with the browser
  6. Donation !~TONY~!
    1...c5!
    14 Sep '08 17:29 / 3 edits
    I absolutely love the Grunfeld. Here are some of my games from ICC:




    I could probably dig up more games if you'd like.
  7. Donation !~TONY~!
    1...c5!
    14 Sep '08 17:35
  8. Donation !~TONY~!
    1...c5!
    14 Sep '08 17:35
  9. 14 Sep '08 18:31 / 2 edits
    I was just going to post one but my opponent refused with 1. Nf3. These move order issues annoyed me in my main opening, the Nimzo (although in this case it's just different, not really worse) and now they annoy me in the Grunfeld. I might post one later.

    BTW: I'm aware that Black can try for a Grunfeld anyway, but it is is a worse position.
  10. Donation !~TONY~!
    1...c5!
    14 Sep '08 19:29
    Yeah it's risky to play for a Grunfeld after 1. Nf3. For instance:

    1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Qa4+ (or 4. Qa4+)

    There is a lot of analysis by Khalifman in the series Opening for White According to Anand that suggests that White is really only playing for two results. That said, who knows how you'd fair at our level.
  11. 14 Sep '08 23:27
    Actually, I found a much more dangerous new variation which I feel gives Black a position where he lacks counterplay and prospects if he insists on a Grunfeld. I might reveal it after I get a few chances to play it OTB.
  12. Donation !~TONY~!
    1...c5!
    15 Sep '08 01:10
    Oh snap. The problem with amateurs finding novelties is that it's very rare that they're actually as strong as we think they are. I've found quite a few that have turned out to be not that great after more examination and OTB testing.
  13. 15 Sep '08 03:43
    We'll see, I have yet to test it seriously.
  14. 15 Sep '08 11:06 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Kencorp
    Anyone care to pgn some of their grunfeld games? I wish to study some games against varying talent levels.us Thanks
    No, I don't care.
  15. 15 Sep '08 12:50
    Originally posted by !~TONY~!
    Yeah it's risky to play for a Grunfeld after 1. Nf3. For instance:

    1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Qa4+ (or 4. Qa4+)

    There is a lot of analysis by Khalifman in the series Opening for White According to Anand that suggests that White is really only playing for two results. That said, who knows how you'd fair at our level.
    small edit.
    Opening for White According to Kramnik for 1.Nf3.
    Opening for White According to Anand for 1.e4.