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help on closed sicicilian

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i've always had trouble with the closed sicilian but in the open sicilian i've done pretty well as far as improving goes. what are the plans for black? what are the plans for white? i'm having trouble with black as you can see here is my game. what might i have to better this game? thanks for your time.

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Originally posted by kmac27
i've always had trouble with the closed sicilian but in the open sicilian i've done pretty well as far as improving goes. what are the plans for black? what are the plans for white? i'm having trouble with black as you can see here is my game. what might i have to better this game? thanks for your time.

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I am pretty sure that the closed sicilian is with 2.Nc3 not 2.Nf3 I think that white played a different varitation. I could be wrong though.Back to the point though in closed positions the only way to go is to open a file for your rooks and try to keep the opponent from doing the same.

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That's an ongoing game

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Originally posted by Golub
That's an ongoing game
yes it is but he is not asking for advice on that game because he is pretty much lost with a chance for a draw maybe but he is asking for advice in general against this line by white. there is more chance for a draw than I said but it would still be hard and I don't know maybe there isn't a draw against BEST PLAY

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i'm asking what are the plans for white and for black. i dont care about the game i'm pretty much lost right there i may have a counter attack but not very strong. just comment on the game so far i dont need tips on it.

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i may have been confusing that last message. i want help up to where the game is. i dont want help on what i should do now i can figure that out for myself. i just want to know more about the middle game of it. example games would be great.

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Originally posted by kmac27
i'm asking what are the plans for white and for black. i dont care about the game i'm pretty much lost right there i may have a counter attack but not very strong. just comment on the game so far i dont need tips on it.
well as I said the only chance is to open a file for YOUR rooks not his and keep him from doing the same. your 11th move Bb7? is not all that bad but the diagonal is no good because you are hitting a wall on e4 and it does nothing to open a file, moving a rook to b8 and starting a pawn storm would given better chances. using this plan Bd7 would have been what I would play that lets the f rook get over to the side of the board you are going to open files on and it also keeps the bishop off of the open file and out of the way of the rooks.

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usually openings have certian plans as for the open sicilian black trys for d5 or queenside counterplay and white plays for f5 or e5. most breaks are based on pawn moves and most openings have certian ones to go for.

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Originally posted by kmac27
usually openings have certian plans as for the open sicilian black trys for d5 or queenside counterplay and white plays for f5 or e5. most breaks are based on pawn moves and most openings have certian ones to go for.
I edited my last post look read that.

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Don't think it matters.. you commented on an ongoing game.. I don't think it matters either if you think you're already lost or has only chance for a draw. If that's so, resign or draw, and then talk about the game. You are giving more than general references since you are talking about his game. And even if you didn't, I think it's bad enough to put the link to a game that isn't finished as base for the discussion.

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lo siento senor golub

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Originally posted by kmac27
lo siento senor golub
It's spelled Sicilian for the 1000th time.

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i know but i just keep sliping when i write it. crazy huh.

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Originally posted by kmac27
i know but i just keep sliping when i write it. crazy huh.
nonono... podés escribir en el idioma que más te guste. 🙂
Para mí está todo bien.

- J

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bueno! quieres jugarme cuando terminaria un juego?