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hi, was there a win in this?

hi, was there a win in this?

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hi, here is a very recent Bishops opening game i played against
much higher rated opponent. it is one of those games that was
quite exciting to play, as one slip and either of us were walking
the plank, as it stands it ended in a very quick draw

anyhow i was just wondering if there was any variation other than
what was played that could have resulted in a win for white, but
as it stands i thought that i made the best moves that i could,
and still even afterwards cannot find a win for white. perhaps
there isn't one.

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I would say white is better: what would have happened, if instead of the three repetition draw, you'd have play Nf3, and then Rf1 removing the annoying Knight bishop combination? it seems that then you are more developed!

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Originally posted by Macpo
I would say white is better: what would have happened, if instead of the three repetition draw, you'd have play Nf3, and then Rf1 removing the annoying Knight bishop combination? it seems that then you are more developed!
thanks for taking a look Macpo, its a very interesting observation, but i have a knight hanging, a well as a rook and to be perfectly honest i was scared! yes i admit it, i was scared! i think that if i had played Nf3 then my rook was toast, but saying that it was not really doing anything in the position anyway, ill take a look - thanks Robbie!

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10. b4 looks playable. e.g. 10. b4 Bxb4+ 11. Nxb4 (I think this is better than Kxf2) Nxh1 12. Be7!

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c3 ? this is my onle tought, as B4, bxb4, nxb4 Qxb4 + still check.


Edit : wait, the knight is hanging, as the bishop is no more protecting it.....


Yet, in that case, oyu may be right. b4.


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lEt,S say I do take the knight and play quietly, Qc5 protecting it and not taking oyurs, what can happen?

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4.b4 might be interesting
I`m not recomending it as a win though so its not answering your question exactly.
I think its as good as an Evan`s gambit at least though.

4...0-0 might not be best perhaps 5.Bg5 is a good pin since ...black might not be able to safely deal with that pin perhaps.

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Originally posted by National Master Dale
4.b4 might be interesting
I`m not recomending it as a win though so its not answering your question exactly.
I think its as good as an Evan`s gambit at least though.
thankyou guys, I remeber looking at b4, i dont know why i dismissed it, but what a cool suggestion, the bishops opening, the kings gambit and the Evans all rolled into one, how good does it get for us Romantics?

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forget, 4 b4, it is no as good as in the evans gambits. You should deal Nf6 with Nf3. or d4.

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Originally posted by AudreyxSophie
forget, 4 b4, it is no as good as in the evans gambits. You should deal Nf6 with Nf3. or d4.
how can you say this my friend, many are the games the masters have won with the Evans Gambit. Ive even seen Fischer games where he has dusted it off and played it with finesse. It appeals to us Romantics, for gone are the days of swashbuckling moves, now chess players are all greedy materialists and control freaks!

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why playing f4 in the opening?
Looks a weird move to me. But then I haven't the faintest idea about this opening.

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Originally posted by Alzheimer
why playing f4 in the opening?
Looks a weird move to me. But then I haven't the faintest idea about this opening.
its the best my friend, its a hybrid bishops opening and kings gambit. why should we not play f4, that is the real question! we are aiming for a king side attack, black has not as yet prevented f4, then play it! our goal is not to take on e5 but to play f5, whites bishop is thwarted and as happened in this game, when black gets ambitious, the move f5 cuts off and assistance from blacks pieces, plus, and this is the real deal, its swashbuckling, as in pirates with big earings or river boat gamblers with gold cuff links glistening under the candlelight on some Mississippi riverboat in 1869, ohhhh Morphy why was i born too late!!!

but shhhhhh but between you and me, we are really aiming for a white squared strategy against the castled king, trying to control e4, f5, e6 and f7, or perhaps e4, f5, g4, h5, g6 and ultimately h7, ala the great German master Alexander Bangiev (peace be upon him)

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
its the best my friend, its a hybrid bishops opening and kings gambit. why should we not play f4, that is the real question! we are aiming for a king side attack, black has not as yet prevented f4, then play it! our goal is not to take on e5 but to play f5, whites bishop is thwarted and as happened in this game, when black gets ambitious, the mov ...[text shortened]... lers with gold cuff links glistening under the candlelight on some Mississippi riverboat in 1869
I see!!!
I have no idea about chess!!! 😀
Having a look in one of my Databases I find quite a few games (70 or so) and the majority was won by white.

However, I am still not convinced!!!😏

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Originally posted by Alzheimer
I see!!!
I have no idea about chess!!! 😀
Having a look in one of my Databases I find quite a few games (70 or so) and the majority was won by white.

However, I am still not convinced!!!😏
yes Bent Larsen in the seventies had great success with this, its very solid and he seems to have been able to nurture a very small advantage, but, thats for guys like you and him, we doofers must be content with swashbuckling and trying to make our opponents walk the plank, if we are not ourselves. if i was three thousand points higher rated i would give you a game, as it stands id just be toast dust! 🙂

would you take John Emms word for it, it was him wot invented it!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie

would you take John Emms word for it, it was him wot invented it!
Can't argue with Emms!!!!! 😉

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well the main reason why we would not play b4, is because we end up in a variation of the evans gambit, but with a tempi down. not too good, in such cases, and f4 lack sense. it waste time. do no haste to attack,.

The evans gambit and the halloween gambit are perfect, they appeal to me and to you, as king gsmbit, but this is not a gambit I agree playing.