1. Standard memberorion25
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    07 Dec '09 21:22
    Originally posted by AlexanderAlekhine
    You don't play otb? And yet you know so much about the development of chess players.
    Amazing.
    not playing OTB doesnt mean you don't take chess improvement seriously. I think his CC rating, wich is [debatably] harder, says enough of the effort he is putting in.
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    There are a lot of good players here but a real chess game is a lot harder than correspondence chess.
  3. Kalispell, MT
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    07 Dec '09 21:45
    Originally posted by Automaton
    There are a lot of good players here but a real chess game is a lot harder than correspondence chess.
    "alot harder than correspondence chess"


    I couldn't disagree more. Maybe your not pushing as hard when you play CC as when
    you do when you play OTB. However, thats just you. Some of us push harder in CC
    games than we ever could in OTB play.

    The difference is learning to organize and utilize your time. In OTB it takes less
    knowledge of these two skills. The two arts are very different, but each can take an
    enormous amount of energy.

    No matter what time scale, the board can place an impressive amount of pressure on
    the mind. Its just up to the owner whether or not he'll let the pressure effect, or
    affect him.


    -GIN
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    07 Dec '09 21:49
    Regardless, we admire our grandmasters who play in real games.
    I couldn't even name one CC Master.
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    07 Dec '09 21:57
    Originally posted by Nowakowski
    "alot harder than correspondence chess"


    I couldn't disagree more.
    I agree that both have the potential to require as much effort as the player is prepared to throw at them. But CC has many aspects which make things easier in terms of finding the right moves. e.g. being able to move the pieces around; looking up references; making notes; less time pressure; etc.
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    07 Dec '09 21:58
    Originally posted by Nowakowski
    "alot harder than correspondence chess"


    I couldn't disagree more.
    What is harder - reaching USCF 1900 or RHP 1900?
  7. Kalispell, MT
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    07 Dec '09 21:59
    Originally posted by Automaton
    Regardless, we admire our grandmasters who play in real games.
    I couldn't even name one CC Master.
    We seems pretty all inclusive. I'm not part of that inclusion.

    Many of the most difficult games I've ever studied, and most of the games which I can't
    study for lack of understanding are played by CC players. Principles which are all
    together simpler, and therefore more readily usable to me are practiced over the board.

    maybe Most celebrate the OTB masters.

    however Many celebrate overall mastery, including CC.

    there are also Some who consider CC a purer form, with less mistakes,
    and therefore a better way to compete.


    -GIN
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    07 Dec '09 22:02
    Usually people who say CC is harder, don't play real chess otb.
    I do both and I suck at both. otb is harder.
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    07 Dec '09 22:05
    I think its like 100 metres verses a marathon which is harder?
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    ok, which is more respected?

    checkmate.

    See you guys at the next REAL tournament.
  11. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    07 Dec '09 22:11
    Originally posted by heinzkat
    What is harder - reaching USCF 1900 or RHP 1900?
    USCF 1900 is harder. RHP ratings seem inflated by comparison to USCF.
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    07 Dec '09 22:21
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    USCF 1900 is harder. RHP ratings seem inflated by comparison to USCF.
    I didn't ask you, you have experience on this subject 😛
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    07 Dec '09 22:36
    There are some positions that may be difficult OTB but yet much easier to play in CC conditions. But not vice versa.

    Chess is often regarded as an activity where the ability to calculate ahead in one's mind is a vital skill. By comparison, I don't think watching someone moving pieces around, while analysing, captures the public's respect quite as much. 😉
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    07 Dec '09 22:57
    Originally posted by vipiu
    Svidler:
    "I have an opinion that a monkey could be taught to play chess and it could become a candidate master. "

    this is probably because he did it at a very early age, but for us, oldies, it does not apply ....
    What do you think ?
    It is not easy to be a candidate master.
    From what I hear that is 2000 otb?
    Not easy at all.
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    07 Dec '09 23:13
    Originally posted by Automaton
    I think people find excuses for not putting in the study time.
    I'm a slow learner so I get frustrated by my lack of progress.
    Please ignore my low rating right now. It will be 1500 once again!
    take on too many games?
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